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struggle4progress

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23. Church a mystery to residents

Sun Oct 18, 2015, 04:06 PM

Oct 2015

Word of Life, where victim died in counseling session, thought by locals to be a cult
By Robert Gavin
Updated 8:54 pm, Saturday, October 17, 2015

... the story keeps changing.

On Saturday, town police issued a news release to dispel an allegation put forward in a sworn statement to them by church deacon Daniel Irwin, a cooperating witness in the case, that Lucas was suspected of practicing witchcraft or voodoo magic ...

On Friday, New Hartford Police Chief Michael Inserra had to tell reporters there was nothing to substantiate a claim by Bruce Leonard that Lucas Leonard was beaten after he had been suspected of sexually abusing children in the church. The children were all examined, Inserra said, and none showed any signs of abuse ...'

'Police officials believe the church's pastor, Tiffanie Irwin, put forth the misinformation. They say the motive is that Lucas and his brother were beaten for wanting to defect ...

http://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Church-a-mystery-to-residents-6575910.php

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POLICE: BROTHERS WERE BEATEN IN CHURCH TO MAKE THEM CONFESS [View all] Capt. Obvious Oct 2015 OP

There are no words. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #1

Torture elehhhhna Oct 2015 #2

Wow. Cassiopeia Oct 2015 #3

Oh, they adore the OT Warpy Oct 2015 #6

The old patriarch is already dead, it sounds like. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #30

No, they need to burn that damn book and pull their collective head out of their collective ass. seaotter Oct 2015 #8

I know a priest up there.... Historic NY Oct 2015 #4

I'd like to go to that church SheilaT Oct 2015 #5

sincerely held religious beliefs triumph over all right? that's what repub xtians believe nt msongs Oct 2015 #7

One of the many reasons I do not trust anyone claiming to be a christian Angry Dragon Oct 2015 #9

I trust people that are believers, just not the ones that use their beliefs as bonafides. cleanhippie Oct 2015 #10

If one uses their christian bonafides are really a believer Angry Dragon Oct 2015 #11

Same here! Someone tells me they've got religion and all the red flags go RKP5637 Oct 2015 #26

... Neighbors say they never saw much activity at the church and only heard dogs barking. struggle4progress Oct 2015 #12

Only charged with manslaughter, which mean they need to claim they were mentally disturbed muriel_volestrangler Oct 2015 #13

I think these are the actual charging options under NY law struggle4progress Oct 2015 #16

I guess this is "With intent to cause serious physical injury to another person", then muriel_volestrangler Oct 2015 #17

I largely concur struggle4progress Oct 2015 #21

... Neighbors said Tuesday the church has come across as mysterious and suspicious for many years, struggle4progress Oct 2015 #14

... The church is a three-story former school building that eventually closed struggle4progress Oct 2015 #15

Has anyone claimed this has nothing to do with religion yet? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #18

Of course religion is not to blame Yorktown Oct 2015 #20

There must be parts of the Old Testament that justify their acts Yorktown Oct 2015 #19

Killing at church is described struggle4progress Oct 2015 #22

Church a mystery to residents struggle4progress Oct 2015 #23

Once-vibrant New York church became place of fear struggle4progress Oct 2015 #24

"Church closed during our time of mourning" struggle4progress Oct 2015 #25

Christian Terrorists - Domestic Terrorists - Christian Taliban - ISIS. RKP5637 Oct 2015 #27

A complete overboard action which outside of reasonable mind operates. This is probably not the Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #28

Word of Death Church! nt longship Oct 2015 #29

Neglected pets found struggle4progress Oct 2015 #31