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11. You could discuss a horse's pimple but I doubt you'd find many willing to argue that with you.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 07:52 PM
Oct 2015

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The one ancient and universal question is either "How did we get here?" or "Why are we here?"

That is the question(s) that remains either unknown or unproven by anyone, believer or non believer, scientist or theologian.

It remains a fair question today. The vast majority of other supernatural and religious (they are not the same thing) claims are secondary to that and are subject to natural evidence and have overwhelmingly been debunked.

Yet the paramount question remains, unanswered and unproven either way.

The problem I see, and one I think the OP suggests, is that many conclude that debunking the lesser claims, which are subject to proof, in some way answers the paramount unanswered question, which is not subject to proof. That is nonsense.

"I don't know" and "I believe" are both viable answers to the question, for a whole slew of different reasons and are, incidentally, not mutually exclusive.



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The article's title is wrong: as far as unprovable claims go, unbelief is more rational than belief Yorktown Oct 2015 #1
You should read beyond headlines. rug Oct 2015 #6
Atheism does not confer superiority, but theism confers inferiority Yorktown Oct 2015 #16
Lol, therefore those superior to theists are . . . .? rug Oct 2015 #17
Atheists are the default position, an average bunch of Joes and Janes Yorktown Oct 2015 #18
No, they're not. (And it's atheism, not atheists.) rug Oct 2015 #21
"there is no burden of proof for the unprovable" is a cop-out Yorktown Oct 2015 #23
I still think that reality has some advantages over make-believe. immoderate Oct 2015 #2
How does the lack of knowledge of the unknown or the unproven establish reality? rug Oct 2015 #7
The default position for random claims about the unknown is disbelief. cpwm17 Oct 2015 #8
There is no default position. There is no burden of proof for the unprovable. rug Oct 2015 #9
Ignoring all of the good arguments against the existence of any god cpwm17 Oct 2015 #10
You could discuss a horse's pimple but I doubt you'd find many willing to argue that with you. rug Oct 2015 #11
I don't know is a great answer when there is no evidence or logic to explain the unknowable. cpwm17 Oct 2015 #22
There may not be. rug Oct 2015 #24
But there is a burden of proof about the comical holy books Yorktown Oct 2015 #19
You have not read post 11, have you? rug Oct 2015 #20
Same "leap of faith" that prevents me believing in werewolves. immoderate Oct 2015 #12
Except werewolves have measurable traits. rug Oct 2015 #13
Oh really? immoderate Oct 2015 #14
Remus Lupin told me. rug Oct 2015 #15
"Leap of faith"? bvf Oct 2015 #3
Yep... haikugal Oct 2015 #4
More like leaping OVER faith (nt) Autumn Colors Oct 2015 #5
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