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15. This couldn't be any more intellectually bankrupt

Reply to struggle4progress (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 06:35 PM

Nov 2015

If you interviewed American soldiers about why they volunteered for and fought in the invasion and occupation of Iraq, what reasons would they give? We know...we've heard them. "To serve America". "Saddam attacked us on 9-11". "Saddam had weapons of mass destruction". "I wanted to protect my family and my country".

But even if every single one of those individual soldiers were absolutely sincere about that, would anyone but a moron believe that those were the REAL reasons that war happened, the REAL motivations of the people who initiated and prosecuted it? Anyone? Anyone? How many soldiers would you expect to say "I fought so that Halliburton and the rest of the military industrial complex could get richer" or "I fought to secure Iraqi oil fields for American-controlled interests" or "I fought so that our leaders could feel like tough, macho assholes"?

Exactly.

So why are we expected to believe the same nonsense, the same bankrupt logic, in this case?

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What I Discovered From Interviewing Imprisoned ISIS Fighters [View all] struggle4progress Nov 2015 OP

As I stated in the GD discussion earlier, this does not account for the foreign fighters Yorktown Nov 2015 #1

Let me first congratulate you for posting one of the silliest statistical graphics I have ever seen! struggle4progress Nov 2015 #2

Congratulations for putting your head so fast in the sand Yorktown Nov 2015 #4

The article at the link doesn't seem to address this, thucythucy Nov 2015 #3

The article, in fact, mentions that possibility directly: struggle4progress Nov 2015 #6

My mistake. thucythucy Nov 2015 #8

You are too kind struggle4progress Nov 2015 #12

so religion has nothing to do with it? edhopper Nov 2015 #5

Of course not. Why do you ask. Yorktown Nov 2015 #7

I didn't read this OP as saying "religion had nothing to do with it" thucythucy Nov 2015 #9

Yes, that is true edhopper Nov 2015 #10

I haven't been following the larger debate here. thucythucy Nov 2015 #13

That's okay edhopper Nov 2015 #14

Very informative article - thanks for posting it. Jim__ Nov 2015 #11

This couldn't be any more intellectually bankrupt skepticscott Nov 2015 #15