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Major Nikon

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35. I don't doubt there was an actual person behind Christianity

Reply to thucythucy (Reply #34)

Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:45 PM

Dec 2015

But, I'm not sure if it really matters. The case for a biblical Jesus being at all similar is pretty remote.

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Do you really want to know why the roman guards gave Jesus a vinegar-soaked sponge to drink? [View all] DetlefK Dec 2015 OP

EEEEEUW! BlueCaliDem Dec 2015 #1

Assumes facts not in evidence. AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #2

The existence of a cult-leader "Jesus Christ" is historically pretty much verified. DetlefK Dec 2015 #3

Evidence that tall lumberjacks named Paul existed... trotsky Dec 2015 #4

"pretty much" AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #5

Well, you can't rule out witness-testimony entirely. DetlefK Dec 2015 #7

Trying to align the four as-documented gospels reveals flaws in the idea of an eyewitness account. AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #8

The biblical Jesus is a different topic. DetlefK Dec 2015 #9

But the biblical Jesus is the one it is claimed was given a vinegar-soaked sponge. trotsky Dec 2015 #11

Archaeology and other disciplines have failed to prove that a historical jesus certainly existed. AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #12

Archeology and other disciplines would be unable to prove the existence thucythucy Dec 2015 #13

There are few if any academic claims for the historicity Warren Stupidity Dec 2015 #16

Have I ever used Socrates thucythucy Dec 2015 #17

well regarding spartacus, the leader, spartacus was mentioned by name. Warren Stupidity Dec 2015 #18

We know Spartacus by name thucythucy Dec 2015 #20

We know Homer existed edhopper Dec 2015 #19

There's evidence that a historical Jesus existed and that he was crucified Major Nikon Dec 2015 #22

See my post 25, thucythucy Dec 2015 #26

The problem is we aren't talking about some random troublemaker Major Nikon Dec 2015 #30

"Is very telling" thucythucy Dec 2015 #32

That's kind of the whole point Major Nikon Dec 2015 #33

Or news just took time back then to travel, thucythucy Dec 2015 #34

I don't doubt there was an actual person behind Christianity Major Nikon Dec 2015 #35

If by "Biblical Jesus" you mean the whole turn water into wine thucythucy Dec 2015 #36

Even beyond that Major Nikon Dec 2015 #37

Well except when he isn't and is instead described Warren Stupidity Dec 2015 #15

There is no eyewitness testimony for the existence of Jesus. stopbush Dec 2015 #29

Do tell Goblinmonger Dec 2015 #6

No really that isn't "verified" as there is zero Warren Stupidity Dec 2015 #14

There were other "gods" in history just like him. Manifestor_of_Light Dec 2015 #24

All of these supernatural aspects of divinity thucythucy Dec 2015 #25

Nope. stopbush Dec 2015 #28

Because they thought he could turn it into water? cleanhippie Dec 2015 #10

No, it was probably because the people entrusted with executing criminals thucythucy Dec 2015 #21

Considering that it's most likely a fabricated story, I don't get too worked up abut it. cleanhippie Dec 2015 #23

Fortunately, the whole Buy-bull is make believe. stopbush Dec 2015 #27

No not really Person 2713 Dec 2015 #31

Let's see. Is it because some people really love torture porn? Iggo Dec 2015 #38