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23. Not if other religious groups are allowed.

Reply to Gothmog (Reply #20)

Wed Dec 23, 2015, 01:15 PM

Dec 2015

The Establishment Clause (which is quite distinct from the Free Speech Clause) is not violated if any religious group, including the irreligious, are allowed. It does not cover religious mockery (the Free Speech Clause does). This is an Establishment Clause issue, not a Free Speech Clause issue.

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Texas removes mock nativity from Capitol after governor calls it 'tasteless' [View all] Eugene Dec 2015 OP

The Constitution, tasteless? Precious. Yorktown Dec 2015 #1

a "juvenile parody." rug Dec 2015 #3

But the fictitious nativity story is not juvenile? Yorktown Dec 2015 #5

No. Sqeezing pimples, posting smileys and Lego messiahs are all juvenile. rug Dec 2015 #7

Smileys are efficient shortcuts. Nativity stories are fairy tales. Yorktown Dec 2015 #12

For a proponent of nonbelief, you should contemplate what what actually"expresses nothing". rug Dec 2015 #14

Atheism does not define an individual Yorktown Dec 2015 #15

And there's a fine example of doing just that. rug Dec 2015 #16

Sure, rug, sure. Yorktown Dec 2015 #17

Here's an oldie rug Dec 2015 #18

Oh, those pesky atheists, attacking believers with leaflets? Yorktown Dec 2015 #19

Greg wants to lose another lawsuit Gothmog Dec 2015 #2

Not this one. rug Dec 2015 #4

Greg is establishing one religion as being the true faith which is against establishment clause Gothmog Dec 2015 #20

Not if other religious groups are allowed. rug Dec 2015 #23

You and Abbott see it as mockery edhopper Dec 2015 #31

You and Harris see Islam as dangerous. rug Dec 2015 #33

But the Nativity in a Government Building edhopper Dec 2015 #34

That is the law, whether you or I like it or not rug Dec 2015 #37

The government routinely loses court cases when it tries to censor things deemed offensive Major Nikon Dec 2015 #41

That display is permissive, not of right. rug Dec 2015 #42

If they permit one, then it's a right for all Major Nikon Dec 2015 #43

They can sue. And then they'll lose. rug Dec 2015 #44

... Major Nikon Dec 2015 #46

. . . . rug Dec 2015 #47

I like this one edhopper Dec 2015 #6

That one's on private property. rug Dec 2015 #8

yeah, just think it's cool. edhopper Dec 2015 #9

I agree. They don't belong there. Flags don't belong in churches, temples or mosqes either. rug Dec 2015 #10

I haven't noticed edhopper Dec 2015 #11

They're actually inside the bildings, in or near the sanctuary rug Dec 2015 #13

"Tasteless sarcasm," is the best kind. (nt) mr blur Dec 2015 #21

LOL trotsky Dec 2015 #22

Ugh. What is it with Texas electing f--kheads to the Governor's office all the time? 47of74 Dec 2015 #24

Here is a picture of this edhopper Dec 2015 #25

Kneeling to the Constitution is even stupider than I thought. rug Dec 2015 #26

You realize edhopper Dec 2015 #27

Of course. rug Dec 2015 #28

Or is he simply bending down edhopper Dec 2015 #29

He's genuflecting, not bending down. rug Dec 2015 #35

Again edhopper Dec 2015 #36

Frankly, ed, interpreting preschool fingerpainting wold be harder. rug Dec 2015 #38

Reverence to the Constitution is stupid to you edhopper Dec 2015 #39

Kneeling to it in imitation of Magi is. rug Dec 2015 #40

Some here are blinded by their own privilege Lordquinton Dec 2015 #45

Spoilsport! nt 2naSalit Dec 2015 #30

Abbott is getting more dickish by the day RussBLib Dec 2015 #32