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kwassa

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43. Have you stopped beating your wife? Answer yes or no.

Fri Jan 1, 2016, 11:17 PM

Jan 2016

The Catholic Church as an institution is opposed to same sex marriage.

Pope Francis has personally expressed his opposition to same-sex marriage, but he seems to be softening church positions on homosexuality, which might be part of his evolution in the direction of acceptance. This is an evolutionary process that has taken place here in the US in only the past few years. There are certainly many gay Catholic priests that he deals with every day. He might be gay himself, for all I know.

Pope Francis is also a politician in a vast bureaucracy, and works within limits, which he is attempting to change, to the best of his ability. What he publicly says might be less on this issue than he personally believes.

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Sam Harris’ detestable crusade: How his latest anti-Islam tract reveals the bankruptcy of his ideas [View all] rug Dec 2015 OP

I could never understand why ppl take him seriously Nyan Dec 2015 #1

He thought no one would notice. rug Dec 2015 #2

Thanks Nyan Dec 2015 #3

Some people seem to think it is such a big achievement becoming an atheist cpwm17 Dec 2015 #5

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Did you read the book mentioned in the OP? Goblinmonger Dec 2015 #7

I watched him debate Chris Hedges. Nyan Dec 2015 #9

Then I find it hard to see any statements you make about this book Goblinmonger Dec 2015 #10

No, thanks. Nyan Dec 2015 #15

Sam Harris is very much a right-wing neocon kook. cpwm17 Dec 2015 #18

Thanks for the link to that rational wiki page. Jim__ Dec 2015 #19

Thank you: it's good to see that many people can see Sam Harris for what he is. cpwm17 Dec 2015 #21

He's said some pretty stupid things, Goblinmonger Dec 2015 #25

I'm not familiar with lies told about him cpwm17 Dec 2015 #27

The advantage of book reviews is that they tend to separate the wheat from the chaff. rug Dec 2015 #11

The only people who seem to take him seriously Lordquinton Dec 2015 #12

What does ISLAMOPHOBIA mean? rug Dec 2015 #13

You have a page of questions to answer first. Lordquinton Dec 2015 #14

I see. I will assume then you are ignorant of it and thereby enable it. rug Dec 2015 #16

No, that's your reasoning Lordquinton Dec 2015 #17

hey sam DonCoquixote Dec 2015 #4

Couple things Goblinmonger Dec 2015 #8

your points DonCoquixote Dec 2015 #24

Fair enough Goblinmonger Dec 2015 #26

reply DonCoquixote Dec 2015 #28

does these people even *know* what happened with the IRL Reformation? MisterP Dec 2015 #20

Doubtful. rug Dec 2015 #22

Cold-War history isn't that well-taught--it's mostly "Truman did some nice things and mutual MisterP Dec 2015 #23

the New Atheists seem a bit nervous, that people won't listen to their policy advice anymore MisterP Dec 2015 #29

The Pope is not " religious left". He's a misogynistic, homophobic social conservative. Humanist_Activist Dec 2015 #30

By papal standards, the Pope is wildly liberal. kwassa Dec 2015 #32

No, he is not, where the hell do you get your info? Humanist_Activist Jan 2016 #33

From here, for one place: rug Jan 2016 #36

That would be an alliance of convenience, so what? Doesn't make the Pope a leader of the... Humanist_Activist Jan 2016 #37

The phrase is "a like-minded thinker and potentially useful ally in a crucial battle of ideas." rug Jan 2016 #39

I get my information from the newspapers. I like Pope Francis. kwassa Jan 2016 #38

So I'm assuming you supported what his church did in Slovenia recently? Humanist_Activist Jan 2016 #40

That is just a ridiculous argument. Goblinmonger Jan 2016 #35

I don't know that he is bigoted. kwassa Jan 2016 #41

Is a person who opposes legally recognizing interracial marriage racist? Humanist_Activist Jan 2016 #42

Have you stopped beating your wife? Answer yes or no. kwassa Jan 2016 #43

I don't see how my question is equivalent to that gotcha question... Humanist_Activist Jan 2016 #46

He openly fights against gay marriage. Goblinmonger Jan 2016 #44

He does? kwassa Jan 2016 #45

Sounds to me like he wants to change the hearts and minds of young people to be homophobic... Humanist_Activist Jan 2016 #47

Yes he does. Goblinmonger Jan 2016 #48

You do know most of Dawkins non-biology books were written AFTER 9/11, right? Goblinmonger Dec 2015 #31

he's a crypto-creationist. Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #34