Bad arguments are bad arguments

[Goblinmonger]

96. Here's the problem I have with what you said.

1. I am not upset with the RCC because they have priests that abuse children (though, if the claim is that they have abusers at the same rate as the rest of the world, then they should stop acting like they are any more of a moral authority than teachers are). I am upset about the fact that they have covered it up, shuffled priests and let them abuse again, and they have done a whole hell of a lot to both shame the victims and act like the RCC has no money to pay legally sought penalties.

2. When faced with all of this, you have the audacity to bring teachers unions into this.

3. Are there teachers that are abusers? Yes. Have there likely been times when people along the way have covered up individual instances? Sure. Do teachers have abusers at about the same rate as priests? I believe that is what the numbers show (but see parenthetical above).

4. Teachers do not have a "massive child abuse problem." If they do, then so does the RCC. And there is NOTHING like the systemic clusterfuck that has been going on in the RCC and still continues to cover up and protect those that abuse. I have been part of the process when teachers I taught with abused a kid. They lost their license. They will never teach again. To compare the random individual that may not handle it well with the deliberate and unholy way the RCC handled the problem is fucked up and insulting.

I'm pretty much done explaining that to you and I have no desire to play your "I Googled and found a teacher that abused a kid" game you seem to want to play in other posts. That is ignorant and clearly misses the point. This is the point in time when you either apologize or we're done with the conversation.