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MariaThinks

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109. I like your description.

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 04:57 PM

Jun 2016

People are people, there will be good, bad, and in between.

However, a lot depends on the written word and text, and examples that a society puts together when trying to understand a religion. In Christianity, there is forgiveness, and statements like: "Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone", "love thy neighbor, as you would yourself". Now contrast that with the Islamic sayings (I'm not going to write them so as not to offend) that seems to be that only islam is the true religion and all others are false. That people doing certain things like homosexuality, adultery, converting to another religion are all worthy of death. Is this not what is written in the religion? I don't think its interpretation, I think its literal. The only question is how fervently a practitioner will believe and act in the literal meaning.

Take 2 people who are about the same and put them through the two belief systems, what's going to happen?

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No, I want to stop people pointing it out! [View all] cleanhippie Jun 2016 OP

FFS..... Delver Rootnose Jun 2016 #1

The thing is, I don't see that anyone has done that. trotsky Jun 2016 #2

Yea we can do that.... Delver Rootnose Jun 2016 #6

Ever heard of satire? trotsky Jun 2016 #16

WTF is 'religious bigotry'? Fix The Stupid Jun 2016 #22

You can't prove .... Delver Rootnose Jun 2016 #25

I think you replied to the wrong person. Fix The Stupid Jun 2016 #69

The problem might be your own misunderstanding of the word's meaning. Todays_Illusion Jun 2016 #26

And how does your definition of bigotry get applied to that cartoon? Fix The Stupid Jun 2016 #52

Specifically that cartoon as a whole delivers a bigoted message that is hidden in the language and Todays_Illusion Jun 2016 #58

Oh so it's subliminally bigoted. trotsky Jun 2016 #86

It is true; "Amal Clooney Will Represent Victims of Yazidi Genocide" muriel_volestrangler Jun 2016 #116

If you complain about the terrorist attacks, you get people calling you a bigot MariaThinks Jun 2016 #31

It is so damn simple... Delver Rootnose Jun 2016 #53

it's simple to ignore it and to ignore the writings MariaThinks Jun 2016 #56

And if I point out the Christian .... Delver Rootnose Jun 2016 #62

there is a difference between a few fools using a religion to commit crimes and tens of thousands MariaThinks Jun 2016 #64

W H A C K ! A HERETIC I AM Jun 2016 #125

that's the point the radical apologists don't understand and which allows radicalism to flourish MariaThinks Jun 2016 #132

They are true believers, they are emulating the creator of Islam, Mohammed, who when he became a braddy Jun 2016 #73

Simplistic answers... Delver Rootnose Jun 2016 #75

That was a ridiculously simplistic response. braddy Jun 2016 #81

to complex problem AlbertCat Jun 2016 #128

Using it for cover? They use it for motivation whatthehey Jun 2016 #77

Yes they self identify as Muslim.... Delver Rootnose Jun 2016 #78

Why does this false accusation always get leveled? whatthehey Jun 2016 #102

The terrorists claim they are acting in accordance with their religion. trotsky Jun 2016 #55

That is the point. it would be easy for an Imam to point to the scriptures and say that terrorism MariaThinks Jun 2016 #60

It's being done all... Delver Rootnose Jun 2016 #76

Well, the point is that an Imam could. trotsky Jun 2016 #84

they are all part of it then MariaThinks Jun 2016 #103

Not exactly. trotsky Jun 2016 #104

You've just demonstrated that the common denominator is not religion. rug Jun 2016 #105

I like your description. MariaThinks Jun 2016 #109

Keep in mind, it wasn't until just recently that the Catholic Church grudgingly admitted... trotsky Jun 2016 #110

i believe the New Testament does talk about forgiveness and openness and respect for neighbors MariaThinks Jun 2016 #112

In my opinion, Islam is where Christianity was a thousand years ago. n/t A HERETIC I AM Jun 2016 #126

It does seem that way. n/t trotsky Jun 2016 #129

It's being done. But the looony Islamist Imams just point to other surah whatthehey Jun 2016 #94

Can we use Vietnam nam... Delver Rootnose Jun 2016 #57

Not a typical DU cartoon. cyndensco Jun 2016 #4

Typical for the OP. rug Jun 2016 #106

WHOOOSH! cleanhippie Jun 2016 #8

You might want to think.... Delver Rootnose Jun 2016 #12

Bigotry? cleanhippie Jun 2016 #17

Simple enough.... Delver Rootnose Jun 2016 #24

This toon doesn't do that. I'm. Im not sure you understand the point. cleanhippie Jun 2016 #45

Well then explain it to me.... Delver Rootnose Jun 2016 #82

Sorry delver, I'm not into exercises in futility. cleanhippie Jun 2016 #85

So in other words... Delver Rootnose Jun 2016 #88

FFS you guys all sound like republicans.. Delver Rootnose Jun 2016 #89

I see that you're talking to yourself now. cleanhippie Jun 2016 #93

Gee, thought hating on Republicans was what this site skepticscott Jun 2016 #100

Nice try, but that's not what's happening here skepticscott Jun 2016 #80

Have you read the..... Delver Rootnose Jun 2016 #87

Is this a broken record? skepticscott Jun 2016 #91

Post numbers. Delver Rootnose Jun 2016 #96

And where again skepticscott Jun 2016 #101

Would you argue that about the Aztec religions that practiced human sacrifice? or Scientology? MariaThinks Jun 2016 #29

Well the Aztecs and... Delver Rootnose Jun 2016 #41

i have concerns about a religion that thinks death should be delivered to MariaThinks Jun 2016 #47

I don't know.... Delver Rootnose Jun 2016 #54

i have and i haven't found one that thinks putting homosexuals to death is acceptable. MariaThinks Jun 2016 #61

Then you .... Delver Rootnose Jun 2016 #63

How many followers does that nut have? Which Christian government is supporting him? MariaThinks Jun 2016 #65

Hundreds and thousands... Delver Rootnose Jun 2016 #66

that is such a stretch. Guns and tax code are the same to you? MariaThinks Jun 2016 #67

Money is money.... Delver Rootnose Jun 2016 #74

Why would you point this out now? Aren't we killing enough of them for you? yurbud Jun 2016 #3

You didn't actually read it, did you? cleanhippie Jun 2016 #5

every word yurbud Jun 2016 #9

we've killed over a million Iraqis alone in the last decade and a half in part on this excuse yurbud Jun 2016 #13

how many people did Saddam kill in Iraq? How many people have the Taliban killed in Afganistan? MariaThinks Jun 2016 #48

Saddam killed the most in Iran Iraq War when we backed him yurbud Jun 2016 #68

i dont think so. MariaThinks Jun 2016 #34

Instead of the comic version, why don't you just post Sam Harris' comments in Islam? rug Jun 2016 #107

Some people want to feel superior to those that the US has spent decades murdering in large numbers. cpwm17 Jun 2016 #113

someone once said if you're going to do an injustice to someone, you either feel guilty until you yurbud Jun 2016 #114

The point of this cartoon isn't valid to me. lexington filly Jun 2016 #7

I think the cartoon is bigoted. Todays_Illusion Jun 2016 #11

Cartoons don't cause bigotry. People who post cartoons cause bigotry. rug Jun 2016 #108

People who post cartoons cause bigotry. AlbertCat Jun 2016 #134

I'm betting he won't Major Nikon Jun 2016 #136

lol cleanhippie Jun 2016 #135

I don't have much experience here but this looks mighty bigoted to me? Todays_Illusion Jun 2016 #10

In what way? Be specific. cleanhippie Jun 2016 #20

it's asking people to think. MariaThinks Jun 2016 #35

And yet some call bigotry to do that. cleanhippie Jun 2016 #42

How is this different from slamming Jews during the Holocaust? yurbud Jun 2016 #14

What? That's rediculous. cleanhippie Jun 2016 #19

a better analogy might be to Native Americans in the 19th century yurbud Jun 2016 #33

I don't see your point at all. cleanhippie Jun 2016 #43

Are Arabs human beings? Are we killing them as part of our foreign policy? yurbud Jun 2016 #70

We demonize Drumpf and Republicans on this site all the time. trotsky Jun 2016 #90

How is it similar? Iggo Jun 2016 #21

our government has killed a lot of Muslims over the last couple of decades yurbud Jun 2016 #30

Weak. Iggo Jun 2016 #37

The jews were being slaughtered. MariaThinks Jun 2016 #36

What do you think happened to Iraqis during "Shock and Awe," or various neighborhoods targeted by yurbud Jun 2016 #72

This is going to make a lot of DUers uncomfortable. nt MadDAsHell Jun 2016 #15

Already has. cleanhippie Jun 2016 #18

Nearly all religions have killed. But really only one is regularly and viciously doing it today. MadDAsHell Jun 2016 #23

What you don't know about.... Delver Rootnose Jun 2016 #28

Of course other religions kill (or killings are done in their name). MadDAsHell Jun 2016 #40

But see that's the thing.... Delver Rootnose Jun 2016 #46

Mohammed was not a corrupter of Islam that came along centuries later, he IS the Islamic example, braddy Jun 2016 #79

So you would support.... Delver Rootnose Jun 2016 #92

LOL, it seems you are on this thread just to argue. braddy Jun 2016 #95

And your not...? Delver Rootnose Jun 2016 #98

Obviously I'm not, I clearly know what I am talking about, while you are just arguing with people braddy Jun 2016 #99

Sorry, wrong again skepticscott Jun 2016 #83

kick MariaThinks Jun 2016 #38

This is so accurate and true. MariaThinks Jun 2016 #27

I considered picking it apart detail by detail but I will simply register that is was my Todays_Illusion Jun 2016 #32

Please, pick it apart. I'm not sure what you're getting at. cleanhippie Jun 2016 #44

That is why I am not going to try. I am not interested in justifying what I believe about this. Todays_Illusion Jun 2016 #49

Methinks it's more cant than wont. cleanhippie Jun 2016 #50

You are welcome to your belief. Todays_Illusion Jun 2016 #51

But it's yours in question. cleanhippie Jun 2016 #59

Simpsons: Fox News is not racist, but it's #1 for racists. MariaThinks Jun 2016 #39

If we cared about Islamic extremism, we'd stop allies like Saudi from supporting it yurbud Jun 2016 #71

Old Slate article that explains much of what we've seen on this thread. trotsky Jun 2016 #97

All religions are bigoted against non-believers Lordquinton Jun 2016 #111

Most of the presidential candidates have promised to kill many more cpwm17 Jun 2016 #115

I don't think anyone said Muslims are "naturally violent" Act_of_Reparation Jun 2016 #117

The problem in the US is violence against Muslims. cpwm17 Jun 2016 #118

I don't follow your meaning. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2016 #119

The straw man is the alleged refusal to admit that Islam can inspire violence. cpwm17 Jun 2016 #120

Do you think Islam can inspire violence? trotsky Jun 2016 #121

I'm an atheist and I don't like religion. cpwm17 Jun 2016 #124

You've made an excellent argument against a position I haven't seen anyone put forth. trotsky Jun 2016 #127

It isn't a straw man at all. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2016 #122

A particular Muslim can claim that a Muslim that behaves badly isn't a real Muslim cpwm17 Jun 2016 #130

I think that mentality is a large part of the problem. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2016 #131

What? cleanhippie Jun 2016 #123

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