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62. This usually happens by the third post of rebuttal.

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Isis beheads 4-year-old girl then forces mother to soak hands in her blood after 'swearing to Allah' [View all] skepticscott Jun 2016 OP

This has no more to do with Islamic religion than the Crusaders randr Jun 2016 #1

The Crusaders had much, much to do with Christianity. Not sure where you get your history but Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #3

An those barbarians were related to the religion of Christ in what manner? randr Jun 2016 #15

The only reason there was a "Holy" Land skepticscott Jun 2016 #26

Does this map suggest to you a reason for the monarchs of western Europe to invade Palestine? rug Jun 2016 #58

Sure: Arabs taking over the Holy Land Brettongarcia Jul 2016 #137

Ah yes, the Greek and Roman religious wars. rug Jul 2016 #138

They had many gods. And opposed others Brettongarcia Jul 2016 #140

Hence, Alexander and the Roman Empire. rug Jul 2016 #142

Religion among other factors Brettongarcia Jul 2016 #147

Oh, dood. Describe the religious impetus to Alexander's empire. rug Jul 2016 #148

Platonism possibly; Brettongarcia Jul 2016 #149

Yes, Platonism was the scourge of ancient times. rug Jul 2016 #150

Plato's ideas became central in Christianity Brettongarcia Jul 2016 #151

Plato poisons everything. rug Jul 2016 #152

Wow. Your naivete is awe inspiring Android3.14 Jun 2016 #31

Which of course explains the millions of four year olds routinely beheaded in the last 2700 years. rug Jun 2016 #59

Islam retains old values. And enacts them today. Brettongarcia Jul 2016 #135

Yo'll need a better source than this to spread that crap. rug Jul 2016 #136

Actually that is an excellent example. The argument I would make though is that still_one Jun 2016 #54

How do you know? trotsky Jun 2016 #5

Pyrrhonism is a poor way to proceed through life. rug Jun 2016 #60

Pyrrhonism is a poor way to proceed through life. AlbertCat Jun 2016 #99

So is peddling bigotry. rug Jun 2016 #109

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Back that up, brit. rug Jun 2016 #113

In other words skepticscott Jun 2016 #8

And what would we call it if Christians were to follow the rules of their mythology? randr Jun 2016 #16

Mosaic Law. safeinOhio Jun 2016 #19

Absolutely correct. 840high Jun 2016 #36

while christianity has evolved, sharia law has not changed since inception. MariaThinks Jun 2016 #88

One example of many Major Nikon Jun 2016 #115

The Crusades had quite a lot to do with Christianity. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2016 #22

I think it had more to do with the interpretation randr Jun 2016 #37

That doesn't make sense. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2016 #39

Truth! randr Jun 2016 #51

Again, this doesn't make sense. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2016 #78

I simply do not believe a profession of "religion" qualifies as a practitioner randr Jun 2016 #82

Who defines the real practitioners? Brettongarcia Jul 2016 #143

'had' - 500 years ago. They show what evil can be done in the name of MariaThinks Jun 2016 #89

It's not hard for people to grasp. It's extremely hard for bigots to grasp. rug Jun 2016 #57

It's extremely hard for bigots to grasp. AlbertCat Jun 2016 #100

Do you mean Gordian knot? rug Jun 2016 #108

Do you mean Gordian knot? AlbertCat Jun 2016 #114

When people cite religion as their motive constantly... Brettongarcia Jul 2016 #146

because the crusades were 500 years ago and Christianity has evolved. Anyone who uses the crusades MariaThinks Jun 2016 #87

The main subject here is Islam, say Brettongarcia Jul 2016 #139

I'm getting to the point where I don't believe a lot of this stuff CanonRay Jun 2016 #2

And these examples, true or not, are seized upon as triumphant truth. rug Jun 2016 #61

It has everything to do with religion of any kind. pennylane100 Jun 2016 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #6

Please don't put words in my mouth skepticscott Jun 2016 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #9

Here is what you tried to attribute to me skepticscott Jun 2016 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #13

Sorry, but trying to attribute a position to someone skepticscott Jun 2016 #17

Why are you putting words in his mouth? Leontius Jun 2016 #41

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First answer why you act in such an uncivil way by putting words in another posters mouth Leontius Jun 2016 #49

The other poster skepticscott Jun 2016 #73

This is typical of you you will not answer a direct question when asked Leontius Jun 2016 #111

This message was self-deleted by its author cleanhippie Jun 2016 #128

This message was self-deleted by its author cleanhippie Jun 2016 #127

This usually happens by the third post of rebuttal. rug Jun 2016 #62

And when you couple the fact that none of the horror and evil you attribute to religion Leontius Jun 2016 #42

It leaves us with the fact skepticscott Jun 2016 #43

Greed, power, the need to dominate. Leontius Jun 2016 #48

Selfishness is the cause of all evil in this world. cpwm17 Jun 2016 #64

So what was Omar Mateen skepticscott Jun 2016 #75

I didn't say religion had nothing to do with any evil in this world. cpwm17 Jun 2016 #79

It's easy to SAY everything evil is selfish skepticscott Jun 2016 #83

Anyone that is so full of oneself, such that cpwm17 Jun 2016 #92

"...religion can give assholes excuses" PassingFair Jun 2016 #105

Look Dorian Gray Jun 2016 #95

The focus on evil allegedly motivated by religion, particularly Islam cpwm17 Jun 2016 #97

The reason it may appear some are "indifferent" to other bad things in the world... trotsky Jun 2016 #107

Then it's a good thing you're the only one saying that. rug Jun 2016 #110

"How do any of those acts impugn all the millions or billions of adherents of those religions?" trotsky Jun 2016 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #12

Look through older threads in this group. There are plenty of examples of what you asked for. cleanhippie Jun 2016 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #24

When has mass violence skepticscott Jun 2016 #25

About that meme, are you saying atheism had NOTHING to do with the systematic outlawing of religion? rug Jun 2016 #66

Several reasons whatthehey Jun 2016 #30

New in these parts? Haven't seen this before round here? mr blur Jun 2016 #35

Seems our "scientist" friend skepticscott Jun 2016 #45

I see a theme. rug Jun 2016 #67

Surely you can point to one, then. rug Jun 2016 #65

That's no straw man. trotsky Jun 2016 #21

For instance, I was asked to consider the "economic factors" that led to ISIS stoning a woman muriel_volestrangler Jun 2016 #38

And? rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #46

Stoning is torture, not a "complex social phenomenon" muriel_volestrangler Jun 2016 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #53

You're being dishonest muriel. rug Jun 2016 #69

Why should anyone start at #20? The explicit religious reasoning is given in the OP muriel_volestrangler Jun 2016 #71

Becase that was about the causes of violence, not stoinng a woman for adultery. rug Jun 2016 #72

No, the thread and sub-thread were about a specific stoning, not some general "causes of violence" muriel_volestrangler Jun 2016 #80

The violence is part of the human condition. AlbertCat Jun 2016 #103

Our friend here assumes skepticscott Jun 2016 #18

Ok, trotsky. How many of the billions of adherents are you willing to say it does impugn? rug Jun 2016 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #68

Yes, that's who I replied to - "trotsky". rug Jun 2016 #70

lol.. EvilAL Jun 2016 #74

it would probably be a good idea EvilAL Jun 2016 #77

"How do any of those acts impugn all the millions or billions of adherents of those religions?" AlbertCat Jun 2016 #101

Because that's what the adherents want! trotsky Jun 2016 #123

I'm aware that ISIS is responsible for some horrific acts, but I would need more than an Arkansas Granny Jun 2016 #14

I'll agree that the story's authenticity is questionable. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2016 #23

Religion is always involved in war. peace13 Jun 2016 #27

Its getting worse on both sides LiberalLovinLug Jun 2016 #28

I agree! peace13 Jun 2016 #29

ISIS is a fringe doomsday-cult, unrelated to what the vast majority of Muslims think. DetlefK Jun 2016 #32

Which only means that they are among the worst skepticscott Jun 2016 #34

"cherry-picked parts of the Quran, intentionally ignoring other parts" trotsky Jun 2016 #40

You say that as if cherry-picking your religious belief isn't standard-practice. DetlefK Jun 2016 #93

Of course it is. That's the whole point. trotsky Jun 2016 #98

This is where we disagree. stone space Jun 2016 #130

"justified" <> "preference" trotsky Jun 2016 #132

The Theologian-Generals of Saddam's old Ba'athist Party are not always justified in their choices. stone space Jul 2016 #133

Wow, you finally got reinstated? trotsky Jul 2016 #134

What does it mean to be reinstated? stone space Jul 2016 #141

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Why the personal insults and attacks? What has you so upset? (nt) stone space Jul 2016 #145

How horrific MFM008 Jun 2016 #33

just like the INQUISITION was christian. fortunately there was no teevee for that. pansypoo53219 Jun 2016 #47

What is the verification of this account? randr Jun 2016 #52

Religious perversion. Not religion. applegrove Jun 2016 #55

So what is the difference? skepticscott Jun 2016 #76

Genocide and terrorism are not religious expression. They are war crimes and crimes. applegrove Jun 2016 #85

Silly argument skepticscott Jun 2016 #90

My understanding of religious expression does not include genocide or terrorism. Those may have applegrove Jun 2016 #91

"They are not acceptable religious expression today"? mr blur Jun 2016 #96

My point is what is acceptable in religion changes. Canada had residential schools for applegrove Jun 2016 #106

No true Scotsman Major Nikon Jun 2016 #116

No true argument. rug Jun 2016 #117

Thanks for the demonstrably wrong opinion Major Nikon Jun 2016 #118

Ah, so you consider the trite "No True Scotman" a demonstrably right opinion. rug Jun 2016 #119

Sure, pointing out logical fallacies are so trite they can be dismissed with "No true argument" Major Nikon Jun 2016 #120

Except you didn't. You recited one. You didn't demonstrate one. rug Jun 2016 #121

Not playing these games today Major Nikon Jun 2016 #122

But of course, this had EVERYTHING to do with religion. rug Jun 2016 #56

Looks like a propagamda hit piece and the site has a nasty popup Warpy Jun 2016 #81

From your link: "story could not be confirmed" struggle4progress Jun 2016 #84

Horrible MariaThinks Jun 2016 #86

Jesus. Dorian Gray Jun 2016 #94

Christians blow heads of children off and think they have the moral high ground. Sorry. Hoyt Jun 2016 #102

Wow. Is this kind of thing typical? cheapdate Jun 2016 #104

When it comes to irrational beliefs and wacky rituals, it's very typical for religion. cleanhippie Jun 2016 #124

Oh well, what can you do, right? cheapdate Jun 2016 #125

Call it out and marginalize it. cleanhippie Jun 2016 #126

It probably didn't happen. cpwm17 Jun 2016 #129

As terrible as ISIS is I'm kind of skeptical of this story ButterflyBlood Jun 2016 #131