It might be about religion if . . .

[Brettongarcia]

83. The religious would've killed people anyway?

A guy buys an apple because his wife asked him to. But according to the arguments advanced by many here, it wasn't because his wife asked him. It was because of his own inner inclinations. Which would have lead him to buy one anyway.

Even though say, he doesn't like apples himself?

So it isn't really true that orders, commands, ideas, requests from others - whether from God or from your wife ---have no influence or causal force, on our behavior.

And the idea, often expressed on DU, isn't true. That those persons who cite religion as the reason for their crimes, were frustrated, or would have done these things anyway, even without religion. Clearly different external forces, commands, continually effect our behavior.

Its not just our deep inner anger that makes things happen, all by itself. Other things, like religion, are a factor too.