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cpwm17

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108. "Not to mention the millions of Muslims who still committed violence"

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 06:09 PM

Jun 2016

Last edited Tue Jun 28, 2016, 08:16 PM - Edit history (1)

That's an exaggeration.

The current wars are not coincidentally in areas that the US has major military operations. The PNAC list of nations to destroy are Iraq, Syria, Libya, and Iran. They also want conflict with Russia. They've succeeded in Iraq and Libya by getting the US government to go along. The US is trying hard to finish the job in Syria by supporting the Jihadists against Assad, Iran, and Russia.

We can look forward to much more of this under the next president:

The US also arms and enables Saudi Arabia's actions against various nations, including their atrocities against Yemen.

The average American supports war and violence against civilians more than the average Muslim.

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It might be about religion if . . . [View all] Cartoonist Jun 2016 OP

Such a simplistic post deserves a simplistic response: guillaumeb Jun 2016 #1

Show me the atheist holy book that inspired Stalin and others Cartoonist Jun 2016 #2

No, your post is typical of those that I name guillaumeb Jun 2016 #3

You still have nothing Cartoonist Jun 2016 #4

If the three genocidaires that I named share atheism as a philosophy, guillaumeb Jun 2016 #5

So let's say there are two "philosophies." trotsky Jun 2016 #43

The second book would be quite thin. rug Jun 2016 #49

"it's just comprised of people who don't believe anything in that other philosophy's book."? guillaumeb Jun 2016 #74

Neither of those edicts has anything to do with atheism. trotsky Jun 2016 #82

And in your style you again avoid answering any questions. guillaumeb Jun 2016 #91

My answers to those questions have nothing to do with any "philosophy" of atheism. trotsky Jun 2016 #94

I have not read any actual reply to any question that I have posed. guillaumeb Jun 2016 #95

Once again you display your inability to understand what others are saying. trotsky Jun 2016 #96

But some few posters only seem to find and post items that highlight guillaumeb Jun 2016 #97

That's because this is the Religion group, and that's the Atheism group. trotsky Jun 2016 #98

And do you ever discuss the positive aspects of religion, guillaumeb Jun 2016 #99

If I see something positive, I am happy to encourage it. trotsky Jun 2016 #100

If I see one of your positive religious posts I will recommend it. guillaumeb Jun 2016 #101

People act on their beliefs anoNY42 Jun 2016 #102

People act on their beliefs, but all people who identlfy as Christian guillaumeb Jun 2016 #103

The Republican party has a party platform anoNY42 Jun 2016 #110

Nice catch. n/t trotsky Jun 2016 #112

You are missing my point. guillaumeb Jun 2016 #114

Ask and ye shall receive: trotsky Jun 2016 #104

Are you speaking for me with your last two sentences? guillaumeb Jun 2016 #105

Do you, or do you not, think that religion can motivate people to do bad things? trotsky Jun 2016 #106

People can be motivated, or claim to be motivated, guillaumeb Jun 2016 #109

"Can any philosophy or belief, religious or not, be used to rationalize violence?" trotsky Jun 2016 #111

Since you mention unicorns, let me rephrase and merely use the word guillaumeb Jul 2016 #131

Goalposts moved. Noted. trotsky Jul 2016 #132

Atheism is a belief system because it is based on the unprovable guillaumeb Jul 2016 #133

And you're 100% wrong right out of the gate. trotsky Jul 2016 #134

What is an atheist? guillaumeb Jul 2016 #136

Is a lack of belief in unicorns a belief? trotsky Jul 2016 #137

You do not believe that unicorns exist. guillaumeb Jul 2016 #138

Why do you keep lying and making shit up about what other people think? skepticscott Jul 2016 #139

I named no names. You did in your reply accusing me. guillaumeb Jul 2016 #140

You're lying again skepticscott Jul 2016 #141

You are correct here. guillaumeb Jul 2016 #142

You are incorrect here. Cartoonist Jul 2016 #143

In other words skepticscott Jul 2016 #144

Ad hominem and evasion. guillaumeb Jul 2016 #145

So belief in God is equivalent to belief in Santa Claus Lordquinton Jul 2016 #147

What you've just done is classify every single lack of belief into a belief. trotsky Jul 2016 #146

Oh and this line of baloney: trotsky Jul 2016 #135

So, still waiting for a response. When you have time, of course. n/t trotsky Jul 2016 #130

That's rich skepticscott Jun 2016 #107

That's not my point at all Cartoonist Jun 2016 #67

But if certain acts can be attributed to religious belief because the actors guillaumeb Jun 2016 #75

Many once committed violence, naming religion as the reason Brettongarcia Jun 2016 #85

And you response to my actual point is..............? guillaumeb Jun 2016 #92

"Not to mention the millions of Muslims who still committed violence" cpwm17 Jun 2016 #108

So your intolerance of any who disagree with you makes you a fundamentalist Christian? Lordquinton Jun 2016 #9

My intolerance? guillaumeb Jun 2016 #14

You are confusing " theory" and hypothesis. apcalc Jun 2016 #38

A theory is the result of an initial hypothesis. guillaumeb Jun 2016 #60

You got that right skepticscott Jun 2016 #64

Again, one of us is confused: guillaumeb Jun 2016 #70

You stated that skepticscott Jun 2016 #79

You are always ready with insults and ad hominem. guillaumeb Jun 2016 #115

Seriously? You took all that time, and this is the best response you could come up with? skepticscott Jun 2016 #116

Again, you live up to your style. guillaumeb Jun 2016 #117

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #118

Says the poster skepticscott Jun 2016 #120

Can you actually respond skepticscott Jun 2016 #119

True, but it isn't that hard to figure out which Major Nikon Jun 2016 #80

It is you who mentioned the words "theory" and "Creator" in the same phrase. guillaumeb Jun 2016 #121

Sure.... Major Nikon Jun 2016 #122

What DU are you looking at? guillaumeb Jul 2016 #124

So why even bring up gravity and evolution? Major Nikon Jul 2016 #125

Avoid and evade? guillaumeb Jul 2016 #126

You stole my line! Major Nikon Jul 2016 #127

Really, you need to stop trying to opine on science skepticscott Jul 2016 #123

Even math is fuzzy Lordquinton Jul 2016 #128

What about Pi? skepticscott Jul 2016 #129

Fundamentalist doesn't mean what you think it means Major Nikon Jun 2016 #12

I am aware of the definition, and am modifying it to make a point. guillaumeb Jun 2016 #15

You should probably employ some other strategy besides subliteracy to make your point Major Nikon Jun 2016 #17

Your lack of appreciation for nuance does not condemn the nuance. guillaumeb Jun 2016 #18

Atheism is a belief system skepticscott Jun 2016 #19

In your own desperation, you avoid the obvious. guillaumeb Jun 2016 #21

You have to invent beliefs for me skepticscott Jun 2016 #23

What stops you from advancing your beliefs? guillaumeb Jun 2016 #24

What evidence do you have skepticscott Jun 2016 #25

You avoided my response. guillaumeb Jun 2016 #27

Many atheists dont Eko Jun 2016 #32

Back up your own claim first skepticscott Jun 2016 #36

Still waiting for you to back up your claim skepticscott Jun 2016 #78

Gravity can be measured. God, not so much Major Nikon Jun 2016 #41

Do you have a belief that leprechauns don't exist? trotsky Jun 2016 #44

Imagine how the believers of invisible pink unicorns must feel Major Nikon Jun 2016 #45

They're all just beliefs! Ta da! trotsky Jun 2016 #46

The idea that man descended from monkeys is really just an opinion Major Nikon Jun 2016 #47

Naturally. trotsky Jun 2016 #48

The best part is this level of ridiculousness is used as a building block for more ridiculousness Major Nikon Jun 2016 #22

Do you truly believe that ignorance, name calling, and personal hostility are substitutes guillaumeb Jun 2016 #26

What name did I call you? Major Nikon Jun 2016 #28

Well, since you asked, guillaumeb Jun 2016 #29

I intended them exactly as they were used. If you can't answer my question, please say so. Major Nikon Jun 2016 #31

Avoidance. Not very original, but I suppose it serves. guillaumeb Jun 2016 #34

You have been avoiding my question and still are Major Nikon Jun 2016 #40

Okay, prove that God can be measured and tested. rug Jun 2016 #50

Bob's your uncle Major Nikon Jun 2016 #51

"You can't pick it up, can you?" rug Jun 2016 #55

... Major Nikon Jun 2016 #58

That is by far the most substantive post you've put up in this thread. rug Jun 2016 #66

It's also by far more interesting than any post you've put up in this thread Major Nikon Jun 2016 #69

Clearly, when you can't support your position you resort to farting beavers. rug Jun 2016 #71

And yet that still beats your usual gibberish Major Nikon Jun 2016 #72

Clearly, you don't know what "baseless" means. rug Jun 2016 #73

This cliched argument is usually formatted as "guns don't kill people" Major Nikon Jun 2016 #20

fundamentalist atheists SoLeftIAmRight Jun 2016 #53

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #7

Show us the evidence skepticscott Jun 2016 #10

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #11

Apparently kwassa did not like being asked for evidence skepticscott Jun 2016 #13

They all had dark hair skepticscott Jun 2016 #6

and Hitler was a Catholic rurallib Jun 2016 #30

Nope anoNY42 Jun 2016 #52

Christians like Bush , Nixon and Reagan killed plenty. Lance Bass esquire Jun 2016 #76

Murderers are not limited to any one philosophy. guillaumeb Jun 2016 #77

The big mass murderers are Muslims today Brettongarcia Jun 2016 #81

In my lifetime, it's hard to beat the US when it comes to mass-murder. cpwm17 Jun 2016 #84

The Old Testament Brettongarcia Jun 2016 #86

There are some people that take the Old Testament too seriously cpwm17 Jun 2016 #87

There are many factors. Religion is one, though. Brettongarcia Jun 2016 #88

The same is true for violence committed by Muslims. cpwm17 Jun 2016 #89

So religion has a multiplier effect on things Brettongarcia Jun 2016 #90

Religion certainly seems to be somewhat harmful overall (in my opinion), cpwm17 Jun 2016 #93

On the contrary:Religion is a major factor in violence Brettongarcia Jul 2016 #149

On another note, patriotism is THE major factor in state violence. guillaumeb Jul 2016 #153

Yes. And states often cite religion as motive Brettongarcia Jul 2016 #156

Excellent comment: guillaumeb Jul 2016 #157

Stalin etc. said he was responding to religious oppression Brettongarcia Jun 2016 #113

The objective way to compare atheists to theists cpwm17 Jun 2016 #8

Given the huge disparity in numbers between believers and non-believers, guillaumeb Jun 2016 #16

Mass murdering dictators is just one of a number of potential measures cpwm17 Jun 2016 #33

A nuanced reply. guillaumeb Jun 2016 #35

Yet another claim that you keep repeating skepticscott Jun 2016 #37

That's what I meant by my sentence. cpwm17 Jun 2016 #39

Some find excuses in a book that includes directions for selling your children into slavery Major Nikon Jun 2016 #42

This thread got off the rails quick. Religion is a fig leaf not a cause Buzz cook Jun 2016 #54

"It gives magical power to an inanimate object." cpwm17 Jun 2016 #56

So your answer is "Guns don't kill people, people kill people"? Act_of_Reparation Jun 2016 #57

"Religion is culture" yes exactly Buzz cook Jun 2016 #59

A distinction without a difference. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2016 #61

If religion is an excuse for violence, it encourages it Brettongarcia Jun 2016 #62

But what about the people who believe the book is the divine word of god? trotsky Jun 2016 #65

Some people are fixated on violence. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2016 #68

Very nice OP Brettongarcia Jun 2016 #63

The religious would've killed people anyway? Brettongarcia Jun 2016 #83

See DU "Terrorism is Not About Religion" responses Brettongarcia Jul 2016 #148

I've seen 'em Cartoonist Jul 2016 #150

1 good point: experts agree religion relates to terrorism Brettongarcia Jul 2016 #151

What's the religious factor in Baton Rouge and Dallas? rug Jul 2016 #152

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar Cartoonist Jul 2016 #154

Why can't the religious honestly confess their sins? Brettongarcia Jul 2016 #155