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Albertoo

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73. Amen, brother. But, for demographic reasons, Islam is currently the most toxic

Sat Jul 16, 2016, 10:09 AM

Jul 2016

Judaism might be equally toxic as Judaism, we'll never know, they're beat by Islam 1:100.

And Nobel prizes don't count as geostrategic assets. Which is probably unfortunate.

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Do 9/11, San Bernardino and Nice illustrate a problem with Islamic theology? [View all] Albertoo Jul 2016 OP

Oh no, of course not. Religion isn't the basis for any religiously based terrorism at all! cleanhippie Jul 2016 #1

Thanks for your kind answer. My mind is at peace now. Albertoo Jul 2016 #2

Christians are worse, Crusades, Inquisition Cayenne Jul 2016 #3

Christians did those things when Christianity was about the age that Islam is now. Squinch Jul 2016 #4

Yes, I see it the same way. LuvNewcastle Jul 2016 #37

Questionable, but I don't care. IF it was true, would it exonerate Islam 2016? Albertoo Jul 2016 #7

So where was the Islamic Supremacism, based on Islamic theology, in the 19th and 20th centuries? rug Jul 2016 #9

Massive fail: Islamic Supremacism has been official doctrine in both centuries Albertoo Jul 2016 #12

Lol, the Barbary Wars were dictated by the Qran? rug Jul 2016 #15

Your LOLs and broken links are not an answer to my quote about the Barbary Wars Albertoo Jul 2016 #16

The links should be fine. No kowledgable person says the Barbary Wars was about Islamic supremacism. rug Jul 2016 #19

No kowledgable person says the Barbary Wars was about Islamic supremacism? Albertoo Jul 2016 #26

Yeah, the Historian of the State Department doesn't have a clue. rug Jul 2016 #35

Do you expect the State Department to be frank about the religious origins of war? Albertoo Jul 2016 #40

About events 200 years ago? D'uh, yes. rug Jul 2016 #42

LOL LOL LOL Comments of the past cannot arouse modern day sensibilities? Albertoo Jul 2016 #44

You're really going off the deep end. Lasted longer than I expected, though. rug Jul 2016 #46

btw, XIXth century 'Saudi Arabia' started with a war in the name of radical Islam Albertoo Jul 2016 #18

Then you have a problem. It was the Ottoman Caliphate versus a grop of Wahhabis? rug Jul 2016 #20

When a war is waged in the name of wahhabism, call it nationalism if you like Albertoo Jul 2016 #23

When it's the uprising of an entire peninsula against an Empire, of course I do. rug Jul 2016 #39

I'll try to point you to the key word: Ottoman-WAHHABI War Albertoo Jul 2016 #43

I can boldface too rug Jul 2016 #45

Bravo! Excellent! Religion was one of the two key reasons for this war. Albertoo Jul 2016 #48

The Barbary Wars have as much to do with Saudi Arabia as the Little Big Horn does. rug Jul 2016 #50

Do try to follow: common denominator = Islamic supremacism Albertoo Jul 2016 #51

Only in your head. rug Jul 2016 #53

You keep repeating mantras disproven by evidence I provided Albertoo Jul 2016 #57

That's the type of proof I find scrawled on bathroom walls. rug Jul 2016 #58

What an impressive way to dismiss evidence Albertoo Jul 2016 #61

Were it evidence, it would not be dismissed. It's not. rug Jul 2016 #62

So, the historical texts and references I provided are not evidence, your opinion is Albertoo Jul 2016 #64

What you have produced has lest coherence than what is found on a ladle dipped in stew. rug Jul 2016 #67

Empty words, that's all you've got against the evidence I provided? Albertoo Jul 2016 #68

I've already told you what yourevidence is. rug Jul 2016 #69

PS: the Islamic Council text you quoted is a bunch of flagrant lies Albertoo Jul 2016 #65

Here is the first example that popped up. Cayenne Jul 2016 #13

You understand 1971 was the year of the Bangladesh War of Independence, don't you? rug Jul 2016 #22

I'm so weary of the excuse making Cayenne Jul 2016 #25

In retreat from Western Civilizations superior military force after 900 years of violent expansion Leontius Jul 2016 #71

Wars with Israel=Muslim Holy war Brettongarcia Jul 2016 #90

Couldn't possibly be British colonialism and displacement. rug Jul 2016 #98

Sorry Rug you can't blame the Arab-Israeli wars on British colonialism. Leontius Jul 2016 #99

You realize the zionist movement of the 20th century was led by atheists, don't you? rug Jul 2016 #100

And that relates to British colonialism in what way? Leontius Jul 2016 #103

Hmm, because Israel was in the British Mandate? rug Jul 2016 #104

Really reaching far out there to justify blaming the Arab-Israeli wars on British colonialism. Leontius Jul 2016 #110

The same thing happened with the British Raj. rug Jul 2016 #111

Earlier, new, borderline atheists... Brettongarcia Jul 2016 #105

"Zion" has as much appeal as "America". rug Jul 2016 #106

A lot on some circles Brettongarcia Jul 2016 #107

This message was self-deleted by its author Brettongarcia Jul 2016 #91

Pray list the latest attacks. 840high Jul 2016 #11

Wait...we're justifying 2016 violence because of Middle Ages violence? MadDAsHell Jul 2016 #30

No Cayenne Jul 2016 #47

Touché. nt MadDAsHell Jul 2016 #52

I believe it is. mr_liberal Jul 2016 #5

Had we really investgated 9/11 maybe we could avoided a lot of what happenened in its wake. Old and In the Way Jul 2016 #6

That's one magic effect of religion: redemption Albertoo Jul 2016 #8

That explains the strip club on 9/10. rug Jul 2016 #10

What strip club 9 10? And do tell me my misstatement of Islamic theology. Albertoo Jul 2016 #14

“It is incomprehensible that a person could drink and go to a strip bar one night, rug Jul 2016 #17

LOL LOL LOL a starting point on Islamic theology? Albertoo Jul 2016 #21

Well, in this case, the first step would be scraping off the layers of information. rug Jul 2016 #32

May I suggest you use semiology rather than boy scout third worldism? Albertoo Jul 2016 #59

Why? Do you not accept simple reading as a means of learning? rug Jul 2016 #60

You're just not a serious debater: you counter a quantifiable argument with propaganda Albertoo Jul 2016 #63

I see. You learn by counting words as opposed to reading them. rug Jul 2016 #66

"the only secular/progressive society in the mid-East"??? muriel_volestrangler Jul 2016 #72

What nation-state in the mid-east was more progressive? Old and In the Way Jul 2016 #75

Israel. Lebanon. Jordan. Turkey. muriel_volestrangler Jul 2016 #78

Hundreds of passages in the Bible advocate violence. Eko Jul 2016 #24

Yes. And? Does it excuse the violent supremacism of the Quran? Albertoo Jul 2016 #27

Of course not, Eko Jul 2016 #31

Today, only Islam has millions of believers supporting violence in the name of religion Albertoo Jul 2016 #36

Really? Eko Jul 2016 #41

IF you REALLY think both things are equivalent, I suggest a VERY simple test Albertoo Jul 2016 #79

I never said they were equivalent, Eko Jul 2016 #81

I'll answer: it's all a matter of risk weight Albertoo Jul 2016 #82

Do you live here in the USA? Eko Jul 2016 #83

A perfectly disingenuous statement Albertoo Jul 2016 #85

Anyway, you just didn't answer my risk quantification Albertoo Jul 2016 #86

You would be in more trouble in pakistan probably. Eko Jul 2016 #87

Why stop at millions? Old and In the Way Jul 2016 #76

Thanks for pointing out the problem is ideologies and not people Albertoo Jul 2016 #80

No religion is good Silver_Witch Jul 2016 #28

True. Even Jainism is sexist. Albertoo Jul 2016 #29

Even some paganism Silver_Witch Jul 2016 #34

The responses on this thread are classic DU... MadDAsHell Jul 2016 #33

Look around America. Silver_Witch Jul 2016 #38

I always said Islam is in need of a reformation towards the progressive side. hrmjustin Jul 2016 #49

The west has screwed with the Middle East for the last 100 years The_Casual_Observer Jul 2016 #54

Yup, it's all our fault, even the Ottoman killing of one million Armenians...ah, just about 100 demosincebirth Jul 2016 #55

Right. Near Eastern history didn't start until 1914. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2016 #56

Yes, but in a more general sense. trotsky Jul 2016 #70

Amen, brother. But, for demographic reasons, Islam is currently the most toxic Albertoo Jul 2016 #73

Correct. trotsky Jul 2016 #74

Do you think this happens in a vacuum? Old and In the Way Jul 2016 #77

So you think decades of wahhabi propaganda had nothing to do with it? Albertoo Jul 2016 #84

It feels better to just blame those dirty foreigners cpwm17 Jul 2016 #88

Well that's a lovely strawman. trotsky Jul 2016 #92

No, in another thread Albertoo completely denied the revenge factor for 9-11. cpwm17 Jul 2016 #93

"Eliminate the US from the equation and the ME would be in far better shape." trotsky Jul 2016 #95

In the 20th century, conflict caused by the West was worse than caused by the ME. cpwm17 Jul 2016 #96

Worse how? trotsky Jul 2016 #97

Were the Muslim invasion of Spain, siege of Vienna, slavery for centuries caused by the US? Albertoo Jul 2016 #112

Perhaps surprisingly, I'd answer mostly no whatthehey Jul 2016 #89

"Theology" is a very broad term. trotsky Jul 2016 #94

Theology probably isn't the correct term. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2016 #108

Response to both the above - mostly agreed whatthehey Jul 2016 #109

Not detailed? trotsky Jul 2016 #115

A different topic from terrorist killers, but even so whatthehey Jul 2016 #116

"We rarely hear from actual shoot/bomb/kill terrorists."?? trotsky Jul 2016 #117

Religions are not to blame for the carnage they have caused ???? Albertoo Jul 2016 #113

Did you stop reading at that point????????????? whatthehey Jul 2016 #114

Yes, my bad Albertoo Jul 2016 #118

Hundreds of passages in the bible rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #101

Ultra-conservative Wahabbism and Salafism? Yes. cheapdate Jul 2016 #102