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guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
44. Then we might disagree.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:20 AM
Aug 2016

Because I feel that the two statements express the same thing.

1) "those who criticize all religion are, in my personal view, intolerant of the concept of belief"

2) "if one criticizes people for the specific act of having faith I will call that intolerance"

These things say essentially the same thing using slightly different words. Belief and faith are used to convey the same concept. Neither action is based on something that is provable. One must believe to have faith.

To illustrate:
I believe in a Creator that I cannot see, therefore I must have faith that the Creator exists. I cannot prove or disprove the Creator's existence.

I know that water freezes at 0 C at sea level. Belief and/or faith do not enter into this statement. It is easily provable and replicable.

And we both apparently agree that criticizing specific people for their actions is not the same as criticizing religion.


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K&R nt jonno99 Jul 2016 #1
K&R n/t Binkie The Clown Jul 2016 #2
Do you agree with this, trotsky? rug Jul 2016 #3
You left off gender and sexual orientation Lordquinton Jul 2016 #4
Why don't you answer for him? rug Jul 2016 #6
define attack edhopper Jul 2016 #5
trotsky took the trouble to post it. You'll have to ask him. rug Jul 2016 #7
i just checked the link edhopper Jul 2016 #8
we need more words RussBLib Jul 2016 #9
I think criticism of all religions is fine and healthy. hrmjustin Jul 2016 #10
Did Huffington Post remove this article? surgeon Jul 2016 #11
The article is 10 days old, looks like it's not available anymore Rhiannon12866 Jul 2016 #12
:) surgeon Jul 2016 #13
Bummer, it was a good one. trotsky Aug 2016 #40
Well, for every ISIS fundie, there's a bunch of Khizr Khans. backscatter712 Jul 2016 #14
Within our borders Cartoonist Jul 2016 #15
Build a wall! rug Jul 2016 #16
So you're OK with Sharia law Cartoonist Jul 2016 #17
Overall, no. What you fail to grasp is there is no Sharia law, or any other law, without state power rug Jul 2016 #18
It's what's in the mind Cartoonist Jul 2016 #19
That's bizarre. Actions are what have consequence. rug Jul 2016 #20
There are no actions Cartoonist Jul 2016 #21
And there are far more thoughts than actions. rug Jul 2016 #22
Do you also approve Cartoonist Jul 2016 #23
What I don't approve of is stereotypes. rug Jul 2016 #24
See reply #16 Cartoonist Jul 2016 #25
Tsk, tsk. rug Jul 2016 #26
You wrote #16 Cartoonist Jul 2016 #29
Replying to you is the closest I get. rug Jul 2016 #30
Orthodox Jewish communities would be shocked to Warren Stupidity Aug 2016 #50
You are citing a single poll that has been roundly discredited. Zynx Jul 2016 #31
You may be right Cartoonist Jul 2016 #34
It was probably that one. Other polls have shown US Muslims have social and cultural Zynx Jul 2016 #35
Very true, Not Everyone Who Criticises Islam Is Islamophobic. guillaumeb Jul 2016 #27
I don't Cartoonist Jul 2016 #32
All violence is to be condemned no matter the motivation. guillaumeb Jul 2016 #33
Agreed surgeon Jul 2016 #36
When some Christians criticize violence committed in the guillaumeb Jul 2016 #37
Thanks Guillaumeb surgeon Jul 2016 #38
Glad to clarify. guillaumeb Jul 2016 #39
So you've just said something rather interesting. Let me make sure I understand it. trotsky Aug 2016 #41
What I said was: guillaumeb Aug 2016 #42
"those who criticize all religion are, in my personal view, intolerant of the concept of belief" trotsky Aug 2016 #43
Then we might disagree. guillaumeb Aug 2016 #44
Nope, those absolutely do NOT say the same thing. trotsky Aug 2016 #45
More clarification needed? guillaumeb Aug 2016 #46
I dunno, the more you "clarify" the more you demonstrate you don't get it. trotsky Aug 2016 #47
A very "interesting" response. guillaumeb Aug 2016 #48
I have received the "answers" I knew I would get. trotsky Aug 2016 #49
True. deathrind Jul 2016 #28
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