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fishwax

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27. why should students be free to be intolerant or disrespectful "without fear of being labeled" such?

Reply to rug (Original post)

Sun Sep 4, 2016, 12:28 AM

Sep 2016

"Students should be free to argue their beliefs without fear of being labeled intolerant or disrespectful, whether they think certain sexual orientations are forbidden by God, life occurs at the moment of conception, or Islam is the exclusive path to salvation; and conversely, the same freedom should apply to those who believe God doesn’t care about who we have sex with, abortion is a fundamental right, or Islam is based on nothing more than superstitious nonsense."

Some of those positions are, in fact, intolerant. Now, I'm not saying such positions should never be allowed to be voiced in a classroom, but if one person says gay people are going to hell and another says that's intolerant, is it really the charge of intolerance that is over the line?

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How Trigger Warnings Silence Religious Students [View all] rug Aug 2016 OP

I'm not generally a fan of safe spaces anoNY42 Aug 2016 #1

It depends on what is meant by "trigger warnings." Jim__ Aug 2016 #2

Or, rather, the ideas "voluntary" and "compulsory." Igel Sep 2016 #24

WTF? Humanist_Activist Aug 2016 #3

Know your memes. rug Aug 2016 #4

None of those memes are relevant to my point, swing and a miss. n/t Humanist_Activist Aug 2016 #6

Oh, did you have an actual point? rug Aug 2016 #7

I was responding to the claim that religious people want to be exempt from being called bigots... Humanist_Activist Aug 2016 #8

A claim made by whom? rug Aug 2016 #9

The author of the Atlantic article, don't be purposefully dense. n/t Humanist_Activist Aug 2016 #10

Do you think atheists should have safe spaces? rug Aug 2016 #11

Not sure how that is relevant, but yes, in fact, I advocate for safe spaces for... Humanist_Activist Aug 2016 #12

Do you think they can be used by antireligious people who want to be exempt from being called bigots rug Aug 2016 #13

He's talking about in a classroom setting, where vigorous debate should take place... Humanist_Activist Aug 2016 #14

You didn't answer the question. rug Aug 2016 #15

The answer is an obvious yes, but its also irrelevant, do you want to stay on topic.... Humanist_Activist Aug 2016 #16

It's quite relevant to the OP. rug Aug 2016 #17

Classrooms aren't safe spaces! Both you and the author purposefully mischaracterize them... Humanist_Activist Aug 2016 #18

Safe spaces exist outside classrooms. rug Aug 2016 #19

Precisely, so what is your objection now? Humanist_Activist Aug 2016 #20

I don't have an objection. I'm trying to understand your point. rug Aug 2016 #21

Already answered. For them, and for everybody. Humanist_Activist Aug 2016 #22

I don't think that's his exact point, but close enough. rug Aug 2016 #23

You can force them into being quite. Igel Sep 2016 #25

But only one side is trying to silence the other in this case... Humanist_Activist Sep 2016 #26

There's nothing wrong with encouraging a certain sensitivity to others struggle4progress Aug 2016 #5

why should students be free to be intolerant or disrespectful "without fear of being labeled" such? fishwax Sep 2016 #27