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In reply to the discussion: Atheists Still Waiting for the Origin-of-Life Messiah [View all]cpwm17
(3,829 posts)139. I wrote: "You still need an answer for the problem of god's existence
and also answer how did this god create our Universe."
You wrote: "You're asking for a natural explanation for an event that would have to be supernatural."
So now we're at an impasse on how the world got here in the first place since your explanation "can't" or doesn't have to be explained, by its very nature.
Nothing in the world I know points to a god so I certainly have no reason to support a position concerning the world's origin that can't be explained. And if we add the logical improbability of a god as the starting point, I see no reason to support the idea of a god.
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"Yet" means "not so far"; there is no other implication, despite your desperate longing for one (nt)
LongtimeAZDem
Sep 2016
#11
Contemplating the limits of scientific knowledge is hardly "childish superstition".
rug
Sep 2016
#24
Contemplating the limits of scientific knowledge is hardly "childish superstition".
AlbertCat
Oct 2016
#165
Hardly. Show an implication of biology (which is not a proper noun) that rebuts him.
rug
Oct 2016
#99
You haven't posted even a fragment on what implication biology has to this article.
rug
Oct 2016
#104
See #148. The chemistry professor was quoted out of sequence, with vital phrases and pages missing
muriel_volestrangler
Oct 2016
#150
The video may portray his motives well; and he may be a good scientist; but that does not imply
struggle4progress
Sep 2016
#30
See #148; Averick took certain phrases from different chapters of Pross, reordered them
muriel_volestrangler
Oct 2016
#149
That could be -- but it all rapidly falls into an uninteresting category of literary criticism IMO.
struggle4progress
Oct 2016
#164
Is there any good cosmological evidence for the inevitability of life?
struggle4progress
Sep 2016
#9
The only definite conception I could have of "life" would resemble "life-as-we-know-it"
struggle4progress
Sep 2016
#18
Our atmospheric O2 has biological origins. O2 is reactive so one might not expect
struggle4progress
Sep 2016
#29
This is less about the creation of life than it is about the creation of matter in the first place,
rug
Sep 2016
#15
Not really. It's about the arrangement of matter - ie the arrangement of atoms
muriel_volestrangler
Sep 2016
#38
Starting a process with atoms does not mean "the atoms are all there in the first place".
rug
Sep 2016
#66
'coulda, woulda, shoulda... inexorably acquires key physocal attributes associated with life.'
Joe Chi Minh
Oct 2016
#152
Yes, closing one's mind is always an option. Trouble is, to close on the truth
Joe Chi Minh
Oct 2016
#154
Until I have good reason otherwise, I will regard smacking a human with a hammer
struggle4progress
Sep 2016
#37
The difference is, in some sense, "subjective" -- but the "subjectivity" involved
struggle4progress
Sep 2016
#49
But all of your response still avoided thr fact that science can only go so far.....
guillaumeb
Sep 2016
#46
Using "belief" and "faith" in place of evidence is a common tactic of the believer.
cleanhippie
Sep 2016
#54
I would instead say, 'science is the only credible tool for finding the answer to that question'
AtheistCrusader
Oct 2016
#89
Proof is not something that is addressed by faith. Faith does not require faith,
guillaumeb
Sep 2016
#47
That the Big Bang happened can be deduced from the movement of the universe.
guillaumeb
Sep 2016
#51
Being that this is the Religion group, I figured the type of belief were talking about was implied.
cleanhippie
Oct 2016
#147
Ayup. Pure mental laziness. A desire and willingness to suspend critical thinking...
Roland99
Sep 2016
#69
You're arguing against the existence of a god unless you can explain who or what made god.
cpwm17
Oct 2016
#126
You're asking fior a natural explanation for an event that would have to be supernatural.
rug
Oct 2016
#130
"does not have to be explained" is a piss-poor answer, especially when science strives to explain it
rug
Oct 2016
#132
If it can't be explained then it can be disregarded since the "can't" be explained
cpwm17
Oct 2016
#135
If you reject both the idea of a creator and the idea of an infinte eternal universe, what's left?
rug
Oct 2016
#140
But you are then claiming if reality is difficult to explain then it must be by magic
cpwm17
Oct 2016
#173
Magic is not logic. I'm sorry your difficulty in explaining has led you to that error.
rug
Oct 2016
#174
It's time people see how Moshe Averick manipulated the quotes from Professor Pross
muriel_volestrangler
Oct 2016
#148
Last I heard, rug, Dawkins now describes himself as an agnostic. The facts
Joe Chi Minh
Oct 2016
#151
You do know that Einstein was an agnostic pantheist, right? He didn't believe in a personal god...
Humanist_Activist
Oct 2016
#176
Oh look, Rug posting a post that dishonestly quote-mines a scientist to support creationism...
Humanist_Activist
Oct 2016
#175
Rug's OP is an inside-joke. A reply to another over-the-top OP by another DUer.
DetlefK
Oct 2016
#177
Face it, rug, you're promoting an infamous intelligent design advocate
muriel_volestrangler
Oct 2016
#181