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36. Nothing known about matter/energy indicates neither a beginning nor an end.

Thu Oct 20, 2016, 09:39 PM

Oct 2016

Everything came from something.

Now you may be incurious enough to say it is unanswerable and call it a day but most humans have more intellectual rigor than that.

But you certainly cannot say that the concept of a god is either irrational or illogical, particularly when you rest that claim solely on natural science.

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Logic and Reason. Dawson Leery Oct 2016 #1

You do realize logic and reason, alone, can lead to absurd results, don't you? rug Oct 2016 #2

Not nearly as absurd as rising from the dead, crackers into flesh, and global flood.... cleanhippie Oct 2016 #6

No, more absurd. rug Oct 2016 #7

So rising from the dead and crackers turning into flesh isn't an absurd idea? cleanhippie Oct 2016 #10

Of course it isn't. rug Oct 2016 #11

It hasn't ever been "debunked" Lordquinton Oct 2016 #14

Here, I'll fix your post: rug Oct 2016 #15

Nope, just underlining my point Lordquinton Oct 2016 #16

There's something under your point but it's not a line. rug Oct 2016 #17

I don't have a god, you do. Lordquinton Oct 2016 #24

If there is a god it objectively exists. If not, it doesn't. rug Oct 2016 #29

If a god exists, then it can be proven Lordquinton Oct 2016 #34

Design the experiment to prove or disprove it. rug Oct 2016 #35

If that's the case then neither can you Lordquinton Oct 2016 #39

I'm not claiming the proof of god is evidence. You are. rug Oct 2016 #42

You're claiming that your god exists Lordquinton Oct 2016 #44

You claim you reject the concept of god because there's no evidence. rug Oct 2016 #47

I dismiss your claim of a god because you refuse to back it up Lordquinton Oct 2016 #50

I dismiss you because you cannot even describe the evidence you demand. rug Oct 2016 #54

Oh, come on. ChairmanAgnostic Oct 2016 #53

That's a fine example of conflating theology with politics, along with nun-induced bitterness. rug Oct 2016 #55

Wow. Talk about rude. ChairmanAgnostic Oct 2016 #57

Cuz ChairmanAgnostic Oct 2016 #52

You sound disappointed. rug Oct 2016 #56

First three letters were correct. ChairmanAgnostic Oct 2016 #58

Sure, basing things on facts and reason is old and tired! cleanhippie Oct 2016 #18

Ok, design the experiment to test for God. rug Oct 2016 #19

Define your god and I will. cleanhippie Oct 2016 #20

Define your evidence for something immaterial. rug Oct 2016 #21

So you want me to prove something that is irrelevant or spiritual and not physical? cleanhippie Oct 2016 #22

No, I want you to display a scintilla of intellectual integrity. rug Oct 2016 #23

Oh! Two traits of your god now. Lordquinton Oct 2016 #25

Logic. rug Oct 2016 #28

You need to fill in the blanks a little Lordquinton Oct 2016 #33

Nothing known about matter/energy indicates neither a beginning nor an end. rug Oct 2016 #36

Nothing known points to a god, but you shove it in there Lordquinton Oct 2016 #38

No, I'm saying you are incurious. rug Oct 2016 #43

Also incorrect Lordquinton Oct 2016 #45

The only one playing games here is you. rug Oct 2016 #46

I'm only, as usual, asking a question Lordquinton Oct 2016 #51

Your god does exist ............ in your mind and others however Angry Dragon Oct 2016 #26

That may or not be true. But mewling for physical evidence won't settle it. rug Oct 2016 #27

I did not ask for physical evidence. Angry Dragon Oct 2016 #30

So, define your evidence. rug Oct 2016 #31

You did not address all the points I presented Angry Dragon Oct 2016 #32

Start here. rug Oct 2016 #37

If I was interested in what someone else said I would read a book Angry Dragon Oct 2016 #40

That summarizes what I think about the consensus of the concept of God. rug Oct 2016 #41

It is still better to hear it in your words .......... takes out a lot of confusion Angry Dragon Oct 2016 #49

Two organizations that come to mind are Unitarian Universalists and the Sunday Nay Oct 2016 #3

I've never been to a UU service. rug Oct 2016 #8

In the UU church we belonged to for a long time, all traditions were honored and Nay Oct 2016 #9

The new UU church make up really depends on the location. Goblinmonger Oct 2016 #13

Meet the new boss Cartoonist Oct 2016 #4

That leaves a choice between anarchism and libertarianism. rug Oct 2016 #5

Religion and belief in God is a widespread phenomenon... Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2016 #12

I find it all very egotistical AlbertCat Oct 2016 #48