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AtheistCrusader

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134. I know all that. None of that answers my question.

Tue Nov 1, 2016, 04:27 PM

Nov 2016

What makes his opinion more valid, more real than any other religion?

If he had said 'MY religion' etc, that would be fine. He can make all the claims he wants about his own religion. He has no authority or credibility to speak for other religions.

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You said: "existence IS the proof for believers" trotsky Oct 2016 #1

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But what YOU said was: "existence IS the proof for believers" trotsky Oct 2016 #9

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The phrase may also appear in the article, but YOU said it. trotsky Oct 2016 #15

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You bet *I* do. trotsky Oct 2016 #24

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So what you meant was "existence is the proof for me" muriel_volestrangler Oct 2016 #39

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The confusion is that the phrase makes a general claim, but you then denied that muriel_volestrangler Oct 2016 #48

Yes, I agree. trotsky Oct 2016 #55

The agenda is yours, IMO. saltpoint Oct 2016 #2

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Isn't that the risk we incur whenever we saltpoint Oct 2016 #7

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At first I was confused about where NDT fit into this. trotsky Oct 2016 #14

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OMG IT WAS THE BEST COMEDY RETORT EVAH!!! trotsky Oct 2016 #22

LOL HAB911 Oct 2016 #3

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Definition of LOL in English: HAB911 Oct 2016 #8

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No, LOL pretty much covers it HAB911 Oct 2016 #13

Ditto! manicraven Oct 2016 #16

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Wise. Thank you. TonyPDX Oct 2016 #102

CORRECT Skittles Oct 2016 #51

You might expand your search. safeinOhio Oct 2016 #18

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Some context for the quote? Heart of the Matter:God under the Microscope Jim__ Oct 2016 #23

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That's not a strawman Goblinmonger Oct 2016 #25

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There is a straw man in the OP, but it's yours not Dawkins Goblinmonger Oct 2016 #44

Well there you go again. trotsky Oct 2016 #57

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If it had any more straw, we'd hear neighing. rug Oct 2016 #37

ha haha ha Goblinmonger Oct 2016 #45

Our Constitution guarantees your right to your beliefs PJMcK Oct 2016 #26

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I've read about George Lemaitre PJMcK Oct 2016 #32

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Thank you for your response PJMcK Oct 2016 #38

And you. And the same. guillaumeb Oct 2016 #41

So mostly science and religion ARE separate for you? Brettongarcia Oct 2016 #52

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Regarding conflict between religion and science? Brettongarcia Oct 2016 #84

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Insistance we read LeMaitre is a power play Brettongarcia Oct 2016 #90

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Here's LeMaitre; separating religion and science Brettongarcia Oct 2016 #91

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Reconciliation? Or agreement to divorce? Brettongarcia Oct 2016 #95

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LeMaitre and moderns abandon 3/4 of Christianity Brettongarcia Oct 2016 #100

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Christianity, the Bible, once made huge physical claims Brettongarcia Oct 2016 #107

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No. The Old Testament was probably mostly literal. Brettongarcia Oct 2016 #116

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Of course I know that. I was raised rigorously on the spiritual metaphor model. Brettongarcia Oct 2016 #121

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Dietary restrictions were established by God, and are religious Brettongarcia Oct 2016 #128

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Science should judge religion. Says the Bible Brettongarcia Nov 2016 #144

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Which is divorce, separation of science and religion. Brettongarcia Nov 2016 #152

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Science gets all material things; religion gets spirits Brettongarcia Nov 2016 #158

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Creation or Infinite? dvduval Oct 2016 #27

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The notion that God was not created, but always was... Brettongarcia Oct 2016 #49

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So you're satisfied with not understanding it, then? trotsky Oct 2016 #64

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So your answer is yes. trotsky Oct 2016 #72

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LOL can't blame you for trying (again). n/t trotsky Oct 2016 #108

What a weird 'take' on religion and science - albeit characteristic. Dickie is Joe Chi Minh Oct 2016 #28

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No - we don't want a creationist blog thinly disguised as 'intelligent design' here muriel_volestrangler Oct 2016 #40

It's not meant to be disguised. Only atheists are sufficeintly wilfully blind Joe Chi Minh Oct 2016 #69

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Pimping right-wing homophobes is OK now? opiate69 Oct 2016 #43

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Silly me.... opiate69 Oct 2016 #76

"Dickie is definitely not 'playing with the full deck'" Goblinmonger Oct 2016 #46

What do you think should be done with the New Atheists? trotsky Oct 2016 #56

"I don't know much, but I'm satisfied knowing God made it all" Brettongarcia Oct 2016 #50

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Which to your mind says what? Brettongarcia Oct 2016 #66

The true purpose of religion vlyons Oct 2016 #53

What qualifies him to ascribe purpose/limits to other religions? AtheistCrusader Oct 2016 #111

What qualifies him? vlyons Oct 2016 #129

He didn't say 'buddhism'. He said 'religion'. AtheistCrusader Nov 2016 #130

You obviously don't know much about the Dalai Lama vlyons Nov 2016 #132

I know all that. None of that answers my question. AtheistCrusader Nov 2016 #134

Because trite saccharine bumper sticker-league anecdotes give us the warm and fuzzies. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2016 #142

Sure he does vlyons Nov 2016 #143

He has no such mind, or he could demonstrate it. He is a man. AtheistCrusader Nov 2016 #149

This is one damn funny thread, especially when the holy books are so full of mistakes Albertoo Oct 2016 #65

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Evasion and deflection: I wonder if you're confused or obfuscating? Albertoo Oct 2016 #78

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There is a major objection to the "Non-overlapping Magesteria" argument Act_of_Reparation Oct 2016 #109

"There is no reconciling the two because they are not dealing with the same things. " opiate69 Oct 2016 #80

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"Turtles all the way down"... NeoGreen Oct 2016 #82

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guillaumeb, k&r for discussion saidsimplesimon Oct 2016 #101

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I wonder where god came from?? Angry Dragon Oct 2016 #122

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I do not know if she exists ................ just wondering Angry Dragon Nov 2016 #133

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And he swings and misses again. Leontius Oct 2016 #125

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Your condescension is noted Leontius Oct 2016 #127

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Has he not heard of Buddhism? nt leftyladyfrommo Nov 2016 #145

He says he has a "small understanding". rug Nov 2016 #146

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Have you checked out the Four Noble Truths lately? Act_of_Reparation Nov 2016 #150

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That's precisely the criticism. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2016 #156

..all men are created equal AtheistCrusader Nov 2016 #161

Many religious leaders don't consider Buddhism a religion at all. AtheistCrusader Nov 2016 #159

"The only difference between a cult and a religion... SHRED Nov 2016 #151

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Frank SHRED Nov 2016 #157

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