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trotsky

(49,533 posts)
15. Actually, I do.
Thu Nov 17, 2016, 12:21 PM
Nov 2016

It's an unfortunate part of human nature that a lot of people want to "pull the ladder up" after they've reached a certain status. There were commentators who appeared on various TV programs prior to the election spouting exactly that attitude - remember the taco truck guy? They made it to the US and got citizenship; they didn't want more immigrants to follow and get what they did.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/09/hillary-clinton-wins-latino-vote-but-falls-below-2012-support-for-obama/

When asked about unauthorized immigrants, 78% of Hispanic voters said they should be offered a chance to apply for legal status, compared with 67% of whites and 82% of blacks.


Certainly more Hispanic voters than white voters wanted immigrants to have a chance, but not THAT much. That seems to be reflected in the final numbers.

Here's the kicker though -

Overall, 46% of Hispanics cited the economy as the most important issue facing the country, followed by terrorism (20%), immigration (19%) and foreign policy (11%).


Trump succeeded in blaming Democrats - the "establishment" - for the economic instability felt by many traditional Democratic voting blocs. Hispanic voters were unfortunately among those convinced - seeing that they too felt it was the most important issue.

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And 26% of Hispanics 'voted for drumpf'. Mc Mike Nov 2016 #1
Your reply does not fit within the "religion is the problem" meme promoted by some here. guillaumeb Nov 2016 #2
I'm catholic, but don't believe I have a fight with non-religious Dems or those from other religious Mc Mike Nov 2016 #3
"though there are some fuckheads in the American Bishops who backed that nazi swine." trotsky Nov 2016 #6
The bishop of my diocese backed the Orange Satan meow2u3 Nov 2016 #9
I do what I can to counter the righties JPII and Ratzinger put in, all the time. Mc Mike Nov 2016 #11
Theft might play a part in the loss, and voter supression as well. guillaumeb Nov 2016 #7
The people who own mass media, the people who our presidents have to serve, Mc Mike Nov 2016 #13
And some people promote the meme... trotsky Nov 2016 #5
Of course there are many factors. trotsky Nov 2016 #4
My point was that it's not believable that he did win 26% of hispanics, or 53% of white women, Mc Mike Nov 2016 #8
So you believe there was election fraud? trotsky Nov 2016 #10
So you believe that over a quarter of Hispanics looked at dRumpfenfuhrer and liked what they saw? Mc Mike Nov 2016 #12
Actually, I do. trotsky Nov 2016 #15
Nope. I believe the polls that put him at 7 to 11 %, or 17%. You know, those polls that came out Mc Mike Nov 2016 #16
We do disagree. trotsky Nov 2016 #17
Too bad you don't want to hear the epiphany story. Mc Mike Nov 2016 #18
No, what I'd like to discuss is what we do for the next election. trotsky Nov 2016 #19
Is that what you got out of my post 11? Mc Mike Nov 2016 #22
You do realize that your church doesn't care about that, right? trotsky Nov 2016 #24
I'm pro-choice. Mc Mike Nov 2016 #25
LOL trotsky Nov 2016 #29
Yes, I can see the pattern: Catholics vote far more for Republicans than blacks and Hispanics muriel_volestrangler Nov 2016 #27
Hispanics are predominantly Catholic. rug Nov 2016 #28
Which shows how awful the White Catholic number was muriel_volestrangler Nov 2016 #30
So who are you trying to single out? White people or Catholics? rug Nov 2016 #34
To find out the topic of a thread, read the title (nt) muriel_volestrangler Nov 2016 #35
But you use the term "White Catholics", ignoring the votes of Hispanic Catholics. rug Nov 2016 #36
You know jack squat about me. But you want a fight anyhow. Mc Mike Nov 2016 #41
2004 kebob Nov 2016 #14
Is that true? Dorian Gray Nov 2016 #20
That is what exit polling is indicating. trotsky Nov 2016 #21
It's frustrating and angering... Dorian Gray Nov 2016 #37
Yep - the Pew analysis muriel_volestrangler Nov 2016 #23
It was all about the Supreme Court, and Abortion. wisteria Nov 2016 #26
A lot of my extended family voted for him as well. hrmjustin Nov 2016 #31
Their church has prioritized abortion as a sin above all others. trotsky Nov 2016 #32
It hasn't though Dorian Gray Nov 2016 #39
I don't dispute that many liberal Catholics vote for pro-choice candidates. trotsky Nov 2016 #40
I am Catholic Dorian Gray Nov 2016 #38
Good they will need to ramp MFM008 Nov 2016 #33
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