Religion
In reply to the discussion: The newfangled atheists' normalization of Islamophobia was a... [View all]Bretton Garcia
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If nothing definite can be said in religion, and if so many different views are acceptable, then finally religion really isn't saying anything clearly. And therefore, being hopelessly vague and equivocal, it can be of little use in guiding our lives.
Modern religion is like having a set of directions telling you ten contradictory things, every time. To the point that it is useless as a map.
Or worse than useless. SInce it often pretends have answers... but really has none. As it thereby wastes our time. And deceives us all.
In this view, 1) the old, literal or fundamentalist religion, has its sins and errors. 2) But modern permissive, indecisive, equivocal religion, isn't a whole lot better. Reiterating infinite undecidability, often does not give us useful guidance.
Regarding your other defenses of your faith? I see you were well schooled in standard church sermons,.or apologetics defenses against common complaints about Christianity. But over the years I became dissatisfied with standard excuses. I 1) note biblical problems with the conventional emphasis on "faith."
Next? It is 2) commonly asserted for example, that Jesus and Christianity were completely loyal, faithful, to the Old Testament and its God. But? The OT normally embraces Jews, as God's chosen people. Even as Jews themselves - who should know Judaism - overwhelmingly asserted that Jesus blasphemous their - and in effect, the Old Testament - tradition. In addition, Peter for that matter, changing Old Testament kosher food laws, etc.
So Jesus and Christianity don't really conform to the God of the OT here. And 3) neither does Jesus'' "dual nature." God is immortal and does not die. So Jesus dying, is not wholly Godlike. Indeed, if Jesus is partly human, then he is not wholly God. And makes human mistakes.
Then too? 4) Scholars agree today there are more than minor discrepancies in biblical accounts of Jesus: the differences are extreme enough to suggest the document overall is unreliable. Indeed, Jesus calling the apostle Peter "Satan" in Mat. 16.23, suggest extremely serious - not subtle or minor - doctrinal errors in our highest apostles, and their conflicting accounts.
There are therefore, many objections to standard apologetics sermons, homilies, defenses, of traditional and modern Christianity.