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AtheistCrusader

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9. The article seems to misidentify a 'dearth' of secular POC in secular studies as
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 04:16 PM
Dec 2016

a lack of depth in secular studies.
it's not. Secular studies itself is shallow. There's not much to talk about at all.

I also take issue with this irredeemable nonsense:

When it comes to secularism, even when secular people of color appear in academic spaces, the range of lived experience that they are allowed to represent is limited and reductive. The standard caricature that bubbles up into mainstream consciousness is one of smug atheist blacks and Latinos condemning God and Tyler Perry-esque evangelicalism among folk of color.


That is patently absurd. An example I frequently give (and gave upthread) of Frederick Douglass, absolutely defies this 'caricature'. I don't know what books or courses the author actually experienced, but all I've seen of Mr. Douglass can be described as 'hero worship' in secular circles. It's bordering on the verge of a cult of personality. (Which may not be an entirely good thing) Smug, no. Defiant? Hell to the yes.

But Douglass is an icon and a cornerstone of American History from any viewing angle, and I would not expect too terribly deep a treatment of him in a secular studies course, because as I said earlier, his impact was deep and wide in cultural significance, far beyond his lack of faith in god(s).

Ok. Curious now what you 'know' about my hair then.

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Cultural difference. AtheistCrusader Dec 2016 #1
A BMW, naturally. rug Dec 2016 #2
That's right. I like air-cooled motorcycles and i'm not impressed by any american models. AtheistCrusader Dec 2016 #3
So what? The article's not about you. It's about white privilege. rug Dec 2016 #5
I got it used for 4,000$ and it's my primary commuter when I'm not in the carpool. AtheistCrusader Dec 2016 #7
"Jealous much"? Lol! rug Dec 2016 #8
The article seems to misidentify a 'dearth' of secular POC in secular studies as AtheistCrusader Dec 2016 #9
Frederick Douglass was not an atheist rug Dec 2016 #11
Perhaps there is room for secular studies for POC in american history after all. AtheistCrusader Dec 2016 #15
If you think escaping slavery in some way makes him a pioneer of secularism, you need to read. rug Dec 2016 #17
No, that's not what I think. One of us needs to read though. That's for sure. AtheistCrusader Dec 2016 #20
I did. rug Dec 2016 #21
Yet you retained nothing, apparently. AtheistCrusader Dec 2016 #24
You called him "a bedrock component of African American secularism". rug Dec 2016 #25
http://www.bing.lmgtfy.com/?qFrederic+Douglass+Secularism AtheistCrusader Dec 2016 #27
28. rug Dec 2016 #29
41 AtheistCrusader Dec 2016 #42
This actually goes deeper into it. AtheistCrusader Dec 2016 #10
. hrmjustin Dec 2016 #39
Was secularism hijacked edhopper Dec 2016 #4
The question is not hijacking; it's excluding. rug Dec 2016 #6
Are people of color being excluded edhopper Dec 2016 #12
From the article, it's pretty clear they are being excluded. rug Dec 2016 #13
Fromm the article edhopper Dec 2016 #14
Sikivu Hutchinson is well-respected and quite accomplished. rug Dec 2016 #18
Yet you offhandedly marginalize Frederick Douglass's contribution to secularism(TM). AtheistCrusader Dec 2016 #22
I repeat: what does escaping slavery have to do with secularism? rug Dec 2016 #23
In the context of his time, you might be surprised. AtheistCrusader Dec 2016 #26
I don't know what's worse. rug Dec 2016 #28
Bing is the default search engine on my Kindle tablet. I bet that is how he ended up suing it, too-- tblue37 Dec 2016 #30
That makes sense. rug Dec 2016 #31
That's actually not the case here. AtheistCrusader Dec 2016 #33
MISSED AGAIN AtheistCrusader Dec 2016 #32
You don't have to resort to CAPS. Preferring Bing is not the worst thing in the world. rug Dec 2016 #34
You brought it up and were factually incorrect in doing so. AtheistCrusader Dec 2016 #35
I brought it up because you posted it. rug Dec 2016 #36
It's not bing AtheistCrusader Dec 2016 #37
Whatever the search was, I've scanned some of those links. rug Dec 2016 #38
It's not 'whatever', it's Let Me Google That For You. AtheistCrusader Dec 2016 #41
"Secular Sudies" is a tiny, tiny, TINY field Bretton Garcia Dec 2016 #16
You must have missed the $2.2 million endowment to the University of Miami. rug Dec 2016 #19
Thanks. Maybe I'll apply for that one faculty position Bretton Garcia Dec 2016 #40
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