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In reply to the discussion: Today's sermon is on intolerance: [View all]guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)69. Not wrong. But my focus is a bit different.
And the point of all of this, this sermon on intolerance, is that intolerance is a very human failing. It is not limited to certain groups of people, it is universal. We can read of centuries of Christian intolerance for non-Christian belief systems, but we can also read of the intolerance for theism that was and is demonstrated by the non-theists who govern in Russia and China.
And we can see the obvious intolerance, expressed as condescension and mockery, that people like Richard Dawkins exhibit when referring to people of faith. The condescension that is referenced by C.S. Lewis in his book. The idea that people of faith are simply wrong about their faith because Dawkins has come to the conclusion that there is no God. And because Dawkins has arrived at this conclusion, he apparently must go out and preach the Gospel of anti-theism. In my mind, this makes Dawkins every much as intolerant as any theist who denounces all other beliefs as sacrilege.
And we can see the obvious intolerance, expressed as condescension and mockery, that people like Richard Dawkins exhibit when referring to people of faith. The condescension that is referenced by C.S. Lewis in his book. The idea that people of faith are simply wrong about their faith because Dawkins has come to the conclusion that there is no God. And because Dawkins has arrived at this conclusion, he apparently must go out and preach the Gospel of anti-theism. In my mind, this makes Dawkins every much as intolerant as any theist who denounces all other beliefs as sacrilege.
This was my ending. And intolerance should be pointed out. Some here might, (I would say narrowly), focus on intolerance when it is done by theists. As a counterpoint, I have pointed out this example of intolerance from a group of non-theists.
I hope this clarifies.
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He was raised in the Church of Ireland, became an agnostic, then came back to the Church of England.
rug
Jan 2017
#27
Lewis talked about belief in a deity; you added the "good life" bit yourself
muriel_volestrangler
Jan 2017
#19
It's great you are here to tell atheists that the problem is with their "belief system."
trotsky
Jan 2017
#42
When one only has one trick, it is necessary to repeat that trick endlessly. eom
guillaumeb
Jan 2017
#58
More importantly, it means that one can post something negative about religion...
trotsky
Jan 2017
#84
What we CAN and SHOULD discuss, most particularly here in the RELIGION group...
trotsky
Jan 2017
#70
You said intolerance should be pointed out - but only under the conditions that you prefer.
trotsky
Jan 2017
#73
What "struck a nerve" was your insistence on defining atheism as a belief system.
trotsky
Jan 2017
#76
My "belief" is that I don't accept the claim of theists like yourself that a god exists.
trotsky
Jan 2017
#82
Can you find any examples of atheists describing atheism as a 'belief system'? (nt)
muriel_volestrangler
Jan 2017
#88
This quote is large enough anyone can see it is not taken out of context.
AtheistCrusader
Jan 2017
#108
How about you spare us the self-indulgent moralizing and just tell us how you want us to behave?
Act_of_Reparation
Jan 2017
#96
Are atheists allowed to criticize and find fault with the views of others? n/t
trotsky
Jan 2017
#103
And you have established yourself as the judge of whether "they" are self-critical, I presume?
trotsky
Jan 2017
#109
You are welcome, but once again you insert what you feel must/should? be included
guillaumeb
Jan 2017
#111
Scroll back to the top, reread the original post, and save me the trouble of cutting
guillaumeb
Jan 2017
#116
What you've already said is quite clear. There's no need for me to read it again.
trotsky
Jan 2017
#120