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In reply to the discussion: Is the universe evil? [View all]Bretton Garcia
(970 posts)161. Yes
One of the main quasi-sociological pragmatic attempts to defend parts of religion, says that religions increase the strength of groups. For example Through following one god, the scattered Jewish tribes began marching to the beat of one drummer.
But you are exactly right. The downside of social solidarity, is that this newly, strongly unified group, typically sets out next, to oppose and kill all different, alien, dissenting neighbors. Who oppose the principles they had often rather arbitrarily chosen for themselves.
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How could we ever determine whether "the universe is sentient" or not?
struggle4progress
Jan 2017
#119
No, it isn't sentient; that's why I talked about it under a wider definition of 'evil'
muriel_volestrangler
Dec 2016
#7
Sharp objects are useful. Diseases are not. If you think a god has the power to eliminate
muriel_volestrangler
Dec 2016
#30
If there's a "Creator' that can see humans, it's either powerless or evil
muriel_volestrangler
Dec 2016
#41
Can the Creator control his creation, or is that 'out of his hands' or 'above his pay grade?'
immoderate
Dec 2016
#53
It depends on how and why the universe is here in an individual's own personal view...
nil desperandum
Dec 2016
#17
In your response, you have defined God as you need to in order that you can make
guillaumeb
Dec 2016
#24
If you believe in a "creator" or god, then yes, it is, and it's a problem for your belief system.
trotsky
Dec 2016
#18
"Failed efforts" is your assesment, and one tha,t quite frankly, I expected.
guillaumeb
Dec 2016
#25
It's my assessment, and that of the many others who have demolished your talking points.
trotsky
Dec 2016
#28
I'm not going to answer any further questions now that you've launched into personal attacks again.
trotsky
Dec 2016
#34
If there is a creator of the universe who is omnipotent in the universe...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2016
#82
Where does free will enter into accidents, natural disasters, disease?
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2016
#84
Which points to it being a universe without a consious creative force acting on it at all. n/t
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2016
#90
Trees lack brains and sensory organs to see the saw or anything else...
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2017
#143
Does it matter? You are talking about god being a Lovecraftian entity...
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2017
#145
Produce the claim that you claim was made that science and faith ARE equivalent.
guillaumeb
Jan 2017
#170
You do not appear to be looking for answers so much as looking for trigger words.
guillaumeb
Jan 2017
#183
If he were, he wouldn't be so compelled to attack religion regardless of the topic.
rug
Jan 2017
#167
You got me. I'm intolerant of views that aren't backed up by facts or solid argumentation.
trotsky
Dec 2016
#109
You have no idea how I approach argument, because you won't actually offer one.
trotsky
Dec 2016
#113
When you claim it cannot be defined by us, you are, in fact, defining it.
AtheistCrusader
Dec 2016
#94
Agreed. I think more discussion of issues as well as incidents is a good thing.
guillaumeb
Jan 2017
#125
I can see the obvious advantages of co-operation and anything that promotes the group.
guillaumeb
Jan 2017
#133
But science, at least in my conception, cannot explore what existed prior to the universe, or the
guillaumeb
Jan 2017
#139