Religion

guillaumeb

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35. Source a definition of religion that does not reference a higher power or similar

Thu Jan 19, 2017, 11:52 AM

Jan 2017

wording. If you insist on your own personal definition of words that might win the argument, at least in your mind, but there is no point in debating when one person insists that words do not mean what they are defined as.

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The Millennials God [View all] rug Jan 2017 OP

But I though that religious belief is dying out? guillaumeb Jan 2017 #1

The article... tonedevil Jan 2017 #2

Belief in a God guillaumeb Jan 2017 #3

Belief in God... tonedevil Jan 2017 #4

No, belief does not require any formalized system. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #5

That would be wonderful. AtheistCrusader Jan 2017 #9

That might be a very long wait. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #11

The pace has increased. AtheistCrusader Jan 2017 #13

Hope does persist. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #15

Not universally so, but a significant percentage, sure. AtheistCrusader Jan 2017 #16

The evolutionary benefit of linking members of a group, guillaumeb Jan 2017 #22

Belief in... tonedevil Jan 2017 #18

They might... tonedevil Jan 2017 #10

Whether it is formalized religious belief or an informal version, guillaumeb Jan 2017 #14

The article... tonedevil Jan 2017 #17

To try to separate the concept of a deity from religion guillaumeb Jan 2017 #21

Are you saying... tonedevil Jan 2017 #23

I am saying that religion generally concerns itself with a relationship guillaumeb Jan 2017 #24

Generally does take that form... tonedevil Jan 2017 #28

Your comment assumes too much. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #31

Yeah... tonedevil Jan 2017 #32

Source a definition of religion that does not reference a higher power or similar guillaumeb Jan 2017 #35

Even if all religions... tonedevil Jan 2017 #38

Buddhism. AtheistCrusader Jan 2017 #46

Agreed. I mentioned Buddhism in my post #42. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #47

No true scotsman fallacy. AtheistCrusader Jan 2017 #48

No, simply the fact that religion is generally defined as a system that discusses the relationship guillaumeb Jan 2017 #50

I would not attempt to tell deists that they are wrong/not religious. AtheistCrusader Jan 2017 #54

Nor would I. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #57

But you'd tell them their religion isn't a religion? AtheistCrusader Jan 2017 #58

If someone wishes to define up as down I would point that out. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #62

Some religions focus on say, spirits, rather than gods Bretton Garcia Jan 2017 #6

Words can mean many different things. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #8

They might be... tonedevil Jan 2017 #12

religion is no more than a personal set of beliefs and requires not a belief in a god Angry Dragon Jan 2017 #19

Religion is both a personal and a group thing. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #25

and it is past time that that narrow definition is challenged Angry Dragon Jan 2017 #39

How would you define religion? eom guillaumeb Jan 2017 #40

a religion is a set of beliefs that one tries to live their life by Angry Dragon Jan 2017 #41

That is also one of the definitions of philosophy. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #42

I just say it is time to broaden the definition Angry Dragon Jan 2017 #43

Good luck. eom guillaumeb Jan 2017 #44

thanks Angry Dragon Jan 2017 #45

Gods? In Confucianism, Buddhism? Bretton Garcia Jan 2017 #49

Agreed. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #51

Anthropology notes many other things in religions Bretton Garcia Jan 2017 #53

An interesting article. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #56

Yes. But with the Big God gone, we're down to the smaller survivors now. Bretton Garcia Jan 2017 #60

Your title represents your........... guillaumeb Jan 2017 #63

Which are just hopes and personal conclusions? Bretton Garcia Jan 2017 #65

Again, personal beliefs disguised as rationality? guillaumeb Jan 2017 #66

Personal belief ... based on Science? Bretton Garcia Jan 2017 #67

Let me repeat myself, at the risk of seeming rude: guillaumeb Jan 2017 #69

I met Paul Simon. He dissed my girlfriend Bretton Garcia Jan 2017 #71

Was her name Cecilia? rug Jan 2017 #73

Nah; rolly poly girl. Bretton Garcia Jan 2017 #74

I still like his music. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #75

Belief in God is certainly lower in the 18-29 age group than others muriel_volestrangler Jan 2017 #27

One wonders how these numbers might change with age. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #29

Pew doesn't make it easy to see, but we can work out changes from 2007 to 2014 muriel_volestrangler Jan 2017 #34

Responding to your last paragraph: guillaumeb Jan 2017 #36

The categories for which religion is unimportant went from 15% to 26% muriel_volestrangler Jan 2017 #37

Many will evolve into atheism Bretton Garcia Jan 2017 #61

Your hope? guillaumeb Jan 2017 #64

No. Evolutionary Anthropology Bretton Garcia Jan 2017 #68

Both are based on hope. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #70

No. Reason, probability, material evidence, for science. Bretton Garcia Jan 2017 #72

Agreed on the definition of hope. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #76

Typical problems with Pew data here. Bretton Garcia Jan 2017 #7

By any measure, it is describing theists, not atheists. rug Jan 2017 #20

Someone could take or understand God in a way... Bretton Garcia Jan 2017 #33

Whether they believe in God or not... tecelote Jan 2017 #26

But will that level of rejection remain stable as millenials age? eom guillaumeb Jan 2017 #30

Catholic priests loved to declare deathbed conversions.... Bretton Garcia Jan 2017 #52

They received a bonus for each deathbed conversion. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #55

The millennials in my family don't believe in religion but are not atheists. hrmjustin Jan 2017 #59