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Angry Dragon

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43. I just say it is time to broaden the definition

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The Millennials God [View all] rug Jan 2017 OP

But I though that religious belief is dying out? guillaumeb Jan 2017 #1

The article... tonedevil Jan 2017 #2

Belief in a God guillaumeb Jan 2017 #3

Belief in God... tonedevil Jan 2017 #4

No, belief does not require any formalized system. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #5

That would be wonderful. AtheistCrusader Jan 2017 #9

That might be a very long wait. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #11

The pace has increased. AtheistCrusader Jan 2017 #13

Hope does persist. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #15

Not universally so, but a significant percentage, sure. AtheistCrusader Jan 2017 #16

The evolutionary benefit of linking members of a group, guillaumeb Jan 2017 #22

Belief in... tonedevil Jan 2017 #18

They might... tonedevil Jan 2017 #10

Whether it is formalized religious belief or an informal version, guillaumeb Jan 2017 #14

The article... tonedevil Jan 2017 #17

To try to separate the concept of a deity from religion guillaumeb Jan 2017 #21

Are you saying... tonedevil Jan 2017 #23

I am saying that religion generally concerns itself with a relationship guillaumeb Jan 2017 #24

Generally does take that form... tonedevil Jan 2017 #28

Your comment assumes too much. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #31

Yeah... tonedevil Jan 2017 #32

Source a definition of religion that does not reference a higher power or similar guillaumeb Jan 2017 #35

Even if all religions... tonedevil Jan 2017 #38

Buddhism. AtheistCrusader Jan 2017 #46

Agreed. I mentioned Buddhism in my post #42. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #47

No true scotsman fallacy. AtheistCrusader Jan 2017 #48

No, simply the fact that religion is generally defined as a system that discusses the relationship guillaumeb Jan 2017 #50

I would not attempt to tell deists that they are wrong/not religious. AtheistCrusader Jan 2017 #54

Nor would I. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #57

But you'd tell them their religion isn't a religion? AtheistCrusader Jan 2017 #58

If someone wishes to define up as down I would point that out. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #62

Some religions focus on say, spirits, rather than gods Bretton Garcia Jan 2017 #6

Words can mean many different things. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #8

They might be... tonedevil Jan 2017 #12

religion is no more than a personal set of beliefs and requires not a belief in a god Angry Dragon Jan 2017 #19

Religion is both a personal and a group thing. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #25

and it is past time that that narrow definition is challenged Angry Dragon Jan 2017 #39

How would you define religion? eom guillaumeb Jan 2017 #40

a religion is a set of beliefs that one tries to live their life by Angry Dragon Jan 2017 #41

That is also one of the definitions of philosophy. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #42

I just say it is time to broaden the definition Angry Dragon Jan 2017 #43

Good luck. eom guillaumeb Jan 2017 #44

thanks Angry Dragon Jan 2017 #45

Gods? In Confucianism, Buddhism? Bretton Garcia Jan 2017 #49

Agreed. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #51

Anthropology notes many other things in religions Bretton Garcia Jan 2017 #53

An interesting article. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #56

Yes. But with the Big God gone, we're down to the smaller survivors now. Bretton Garcia Jan 2017 #60

Your title represents your........... guillaumeb Jan 2017 #63

Which are just hopes and personal conclusions? Bretton Garcia Jan 2017 #65

Again, personal beliefs disguised as rationality? guillaumeb Jan 2017 #66

Personal belief ... based on Science? Bretton Garcia Jan 2017 #67

Let me repeat myself, at the risk of seeming rude: guillaumeb Jan 2017 #69

I met Paul Simon. He dissed my girlfriend Bretton Garcia Jan 2017 #71

Was her name Cecilia? rug Jan 2017 #73

Nah; rolly poly girl. Bretton Garcia Jan 2017 #74

I still like his music. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #75

Belief in God is certainly lower in the 18-29 age group than others muriel_volestrangler Jan 2017 #27

One wonders how these numbers might change with age. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #29

Pew doesn't make it easy to see, but we can work out changes from 2007 to 2014 muriel_volestrangler Jan 2017 #34

Responding to your last paragraph: guillaumeb Jan 2017 #36

The categories for which religion is unimportant went from 15% to 26% muriel_volestrangler Jan 2017 #37

Many will evolve into atheism Bretton Garcia Jan 2017 #61

Your hope? guillaumeb Jan 2017 #64

No. Evolutionary Anthropology Bretton Garcia Jan 2017 #68

Both are based on hope. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #70

No. Reason, probability, material evidence, for science. Bretton Garcia Jan 2017 #72

Agreed on the definition of hope. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #76

Typical problems with Pew data here. Bretton Garcia Jan 2017 #7

By any measure, it is describing theists, not atheists. rug Jan 2017 #20

Someone could take or understand God in a way... Bretton Garcia Jan 2017 #33

Whether they believe in God or not... tecelote Jan 2017 #26

But will that level of rejection remain stable as millenials age? eom guillaumeb Jan 2017 #30

Catholic priests loved to declare deathbed conversions.... Bretton Garcia Jan 2017 #52

They received a bonus for each deathbed conversion. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #55

The millennials in my family don't believe in religion but are not atheists. hrmjustin Jan 2017 #59