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AtheistCrusader

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54. Like Hell.
Mon Mar 20, 2017, 03:23 PM
Mar 2017

You could prove the existence of the Abrahamic god 8 ways till sunday, have him pop up and introduce himself to me, etc, and that's all fine..

I would still have zero faith in it. I would have a great deal of fear of it, given its own proclaimed track history of killing people for trivial issues like 'you're on the wrong piece of land and I promised it to someone else'. I would have a considerable amount of fear based on its proclaimed desire to torture me for all eternity for not investing faith or allegiance in it.

But no, I wouldn't have any faith in it at all. That god can exist all day long, but it doesn't make it a morally acceptable thing to invest my faith in. It's a vicious, petulant, cruel, and selfish thing. I have no use for it, and I will not invest faith in it, should it be proven real.

If it were proven real, I would immediately set about trying to find ways to destroy it in self defense. Does that sound like 'faith' to you?

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Yes, good news for Evangelicals Heddi Mar 2017 #1
Thank you for expressing your opinion. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #4
I prefer Lao Tzu safeinOhio Mar 2017 #2
Excellent advice. eom guillaumeb Mar 2017 #3
It is very difficult to embrace humility. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #5
True humility would be to refrain from characterizing people incorrectly. trotsky Mar 2017 #6
You are free to believe as you wish, and I always defend your right to believe. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #7
So much for humility. trotsky Mar 2017 #8
Humility has nothing to do with using words correctly. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #41
It does when the group you are trying to define tells you that you're wrong. trotsky Mar 2017 #50
One does not need to disprove edhopper Mar 2017 #9
You're free not to apologize. Lots of people that are wrong about lots of things never apologize. AtheistCrusader Mar 2017 #40
And you are free to mischaracterize, guillaumeb Mar 2017 #42
Sure, respond to this one, but not #38, since there's no falsifiable claim in this post. AtheistCrusader Mar 2017 #43
It is easy to prove that most kinds of deities don't exist Bretton Garcia Mar 2017 #45
Confusing a Priest with a God? guillaumeb Mar 2017 #48
Is that why all those Christian edhopper Mar 2017 #10
You must ask them. I cannot answer for them. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #11
But yet you presume to answer for atheists when it comes to what they "believe." trotsky Mar 2017 #12
No, I simply understand what belief means. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #13
Just happy to expose the double standard. trotsky Mar 2017 #14
I thought it was my job to expose the double standard. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #15
I'm quite content to let any readers of this thread judge. trotsky Mar 2017 #16
Well, you DID post the OP, so thanks for that. Definitely dripping with double standard. AtheistCrusader Mar 2017 #44
Actually wrong here Lordquinton Mar 2017 #18
Your belief. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #21
No. Lordquinton Mar 2017 #23
Seems like just about every atheist here has told him such. trotsky Mar 2017 #24
See #25 guillaumeb Mar 2017 #26
See #23 Lordquinton Mar 2017 #30
Doesn't do a thing to justify your incorrect position. n/t trotsky Mar 2017 #37
I would say that you are intentionally mischaracterizing the concept of belief. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #25
Again, you are mistaking this for a discussion Lordquinton Mar 2017 #29
I am not defining atheism. The doctionary does that for me. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #31
See previous posts, you are wrong here Lordquinton Mar 2017 #32
If a statement can be proven, it is factual. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #33
Are you an atheist? Lordquinton Mar 2017 #34
I am not an atheist, but I can define what a belief is. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #35
You did the math and defined belief Lordquinton Mar 2017 #36
This has been explained to you multiple times, yet you persist in pretending not to know. AtheistCrusader Mar 2017 #51
He gets to choose the definition that pleases him. trotsky Mar 2017 #53
Also nonsense. Mean Time Between Failures. AtheistCrusader Mar 2017 #55
Are you describing engineering knowledge? guillaumeb Mar 2017 #57
No, because we were talking about belief, not gnosticism. AtheistCrusader Mar 2017 #59
And you remain wrong. AtheistCrusader Mar 2017 #39
Considering the Catholic Church is one of the most top down instuitutions on Earth edhopper Mar 2017 #17
Sometimes there is a gap between professed belief and action. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #20
It is not easy always to be humble. hrmjustin Mar 2017 #19
My struggle also. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #22
We have some good news lunasun Mar 2017 #27
After we moved to the Chicago area, guillaumeb Mar 2017 #28
Do as I say, not as I do. AtheistCrusader Mar 2017 #38
The site's "search"es don't work, it seems Bretton Garcia Mar 2017 #46
Faith is Arrogant: Today's Thought Bretton Garcia Mar 2017 #47
Faith requires belief. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #49
Like Hell. AtheistCrusader Mar 2017 #54
G: What is your point? Bretton Garcia Mar 2017 #56
Arrogance has nothing to do with faith, or belief. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #58
Sorry I don't give time or abide by hypocrites..... blue sky at night Mar 2017 #52
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