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Meshuga

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12. While I agree that religion provides social organization

Reply to guillaumeb (Reply #7)

Thu Mar 23, 2017, 06:56 PM

Mar 2017

And is a form of congregating like-minded people to work together towards a goal (good or bad, depending on the group's ideology), I believe the moral framework exists independent of religion.

Regarding totalitarian regimes, you can obviously have sociopaths in positions of power building a secular equivalent to religion. However, scripture provides the moral foundation that allows normal people to do and support some horrific things.

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Rekindling a Prophetic Moral Vision for Justice, Social Change and Movement Building [View all] guillaumeb Mar 2017 OP

Question. trotsky Mar 2017 #1

The organizers of this group. littlemissmartypants Mar 2017 #2

So there is no disagreement in that group - ever? trotsky Mar 2017 #5

Clearly those bringing the group together. hrmjustin Mar 2017 #3

Obvious, but not fitting with the desired agenda. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #8

There are people here and we both know who they are who will find the worst in anything you hrmjustin Mar 2017 #9

Consider it a balance Lordquinton Mar 2017 #14

Oh yes, those people. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #20

I could be wrong but... Meshuga Mar 2017 #4

I don't think you're wrong. trotsky Mar 2017 #6

I agree, I also don't think they understand this. Meshuga Mar 2017 #10

You both made some very good points. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #11

That is the problem with making scripture holy Meshuga Mar 2017 #18

This is stating the obvious, however, guillaumeb Mar 2017 #7

While I agree that religion provides social organization Meshuga Mar 2017 #12

To your final point: guillaumeb Mar 2017 #13

Except we can point to section and verse Lordquinton Mar 2017 #15

Also true for silly things at a smaller scale Meshuga Mar 2017 #16

"by claiming it to be god's revelation" trotsky Mar 2017 #17

Yes, I agree with there being a huge difference Meshuga Mar 2017 #19

Interesting display of your mind reading skills, guillaumeb Mar 2017 #21

My post reading skills, you mean. trotsky Mar 2017 #22

Speaking of Prophetic Moral Visions AtheistCrusader Mar 2017 #23

Anything to say about the work being done? guillaumeb Mar 2017 #24

Since words mean things, you lost me at 'Prophetic Moral Vision' in the headline. AtheistCrusader Mar 2017 #25

I understand where you are coming from on this. eom guillaumeb Mar 2017 #26