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guillaumeb

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48. An interesting straw construction on your part.

Mon Apr 3, 2017, 03:16 PM

Apr 2017

What you created as my argument:

The woman you hold up as a symbol of all that is good and pure was a vile, sadistic fraud who took millions in donations and squirrelled them away while reveling in the suffering and deaths of the poor, forced tens of thousands to convert, and once called Bosnian rape victims murderers because they sought abortions.

I said nothing like that. Anyone who is following this thread can see that I said nothing like that.

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Ha - Right-wing website argues Jesus didn't want to help the poor at all [View all] sharedvalues Apr 2017 OP

And others say he never existed at all. rug Apr 2017 #1

It's easy to make the Bible say anything... forgotmylogin Apr 2017 #53

Organized religion today is obsolete and is often injurious to others often making the haters feel RKP5637 Apr 2017 #2

What about the haters who feel good by hating religion? rug Apr 2017 #4

In the big picture it takes all types. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2017 #23

It's becoming more so all the time. Young people have no use for bronze age belief systems. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #6

Don't get angry at others over religion - just plays into GOP hands sharedvalues Apr 2017 #8

I'll get as angry as I like when it comes to religious oppression. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #14

Democrats believe in inclusiveness and tolerance, which has everything to do with religion. rug Apr 2017 #15

Yes that's ok- I embrace all who care about others and embrace tolerance sharedvalues Apr 2017 #17

We're on the same page then. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #22

Religious "nones", Jews and other non-Christians overwhelmingly voted for Hillary in 2016: beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #16

That's because the GOP voters get votes from some religious people through hate and divisiveness sharedvalues Apr 2017 #18

This is why I said liberal ideology has nothing to do with religion. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #21

Cliches and posturing are really no substitute for data and argument. rug Apr 2017 #11

Well, I don't consider it obsolete Warpy Apr 2017 #28

Agree! More appropriately applied to your second paragraph! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2017 #33

Need to get politics out of religion sharedvalues Apr 2017 #3

Some saints slaughtered thousands Jonny Appleseed Apr 2017 #5

I would call that remark a fail except it never got that far. rug Apr 2017 #12

It is written he that giveth to the poor lendeth to the Lord and the Lord shall pay him again. caroldansen Apr 2017 #7

Teresa was no saint if you were unfortunate enough to be sick and poor in Calcutta. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #9

How interesting. A post simltaneously referencing "the Catholic propanganda machine" and rug Apr 2017 #13

Uncomfortable truths about saints Lordquinton Apr 2017 #24

Well it's not like white Christian males suffered and died or anything. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #25

Knee-jerk defense Lordquinton Apr 2017 #26

Yup. Must defend the church first - to hell with its victims. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #27

Old hat complaints we're still harping about Lordquinton Apr 2017 #31

Oh indeed. Remember when we were attacked for criticizing the nuns at the Tuam orphanage? beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #32

In the past I've been guarded when talking about such things Lordquinton Apr 2017 #34

I also find it odd that people doubt the church uses propaganda. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #35

I remember that Lordquinton Apr 2017 #36

Well when you need to market the same old product as 'New and Improved' you need a marketing expert. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #37

So many emperors are missing clothing Lordquinton Apr 2017 #38

Christopher Hitchens was a poseur. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #41

Ad hom. trotsky Apr 2017 #42

My opinion about Hitchens. Others may differ. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #44

You won't judge Teresa but you'll judge Hitchens. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #47

I am not judging MTs motivation. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #49

"You won't judge Teresa but you'll judge Hitchens." Lordquinton Apr 2017 #55

She denied pain medications to people in pain. trotsky Apr 2017 #56

More deflection and outright denial of facts. Did you even read the study? beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #57

I can see why you'd rather not answer for that hypocritical nun. n/t trotsky Apr 2017 #50

Hitchens was a neoconservative asshat. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2017 #43

Did she accomplish nothing, in your view? eom guillaumeb Apr 2017 #45

Irrelevant. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2017 #54

I'll take logical fallacies for $500, Alex. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #46

An interesting straw construction on your part. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #48

Assume I was referring to the collective 'you' as in the Church and defenders of Teresa in general. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #51

But you actually directed your comment to me, not to these guillaumeb Apr 2017 #58

Hold on - aren't you defending her from her critics? beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #59

These people are suffering because they are treated as worthless guillaumeb Apr 2017 #60

They suffered because Teresa treated them like they were worthless. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #61

Don't forget about the "medical" staff. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2017 #62

It's not like those nasty old atheists are the only ones who criticized Teresa. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #63

Even former members of her order have spoken up about her negligence. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2017 #64

Jesus must be appalled! hrmjustin Apr 2017 #10

ayn rand is their god. prey unto atlas. pansypoo53219 Apr 2017 #19

Ayn Rand is a terrible writer and a feeble-minded philosopher sharedvalues Apr 2017 #20

Seems like the thumpers would go by their own book.. Permanut Apr 2017 #29

I read the whole article.... VMA131Marine Apr 2017 #30

It's really easy if you pay attention world wide wally Apr 2017 #39

Jesus implored his followers to give their possessions away. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2017 #40

imho, the point of any decent religion is to encourage socially helpful behavior unblock Apr 2017 #52