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zentrum

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20. Thing is, I think
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 11:55 PM
Apr 2017

...the concept of original sin came in centuries later, maybe with Augustine.

I think the literal, non-interpretive reading is that Mary was impregnated by the Holy Ghost---God, basically. Hence the Son of God.

But the key essence seems to be that she never had sex with a man. Sure sounds like a freak-out about sex to me. Specifically females having it.

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And the "woman taken in sin" was never identified Warpy Apr 2017 #1
And the woman taken in sin passage was a later addition to the text ProfessorPlum Apr 2017 #34
So why do we care about this myth? Hokie Apr 2017 #2
Because it's evidence of how Rome brutally suppressed women Warpy Apr 2017 #9
The real myth that should end is that either she or Jesus actually existed. Gore1FL Apr 2017 #3
So why do you even care about this thread? HopeAgain Apr 2017 #7
Would you please explain how, exactly, Mariana Apr 2017 #12
Your right the person was just being a troll HopeAgain Apr 2017 #16
So far you have called me a Jerk, a troll, and a bigot. Gore1FL Apr 2017 #26
Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #28
It's as likely he said that as the rest of quotes attributed to him. nt Gore1FL Apr 2017 #29
Maybe you are just new to this group, Curmudgeoness Apr 2017 #43
Yes, but... HopeAgain Apr 2017 #46
We have thought about it. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2017 #47
Wow... HopeAgain Apr 2017 #48
No, that post was about criticism, not discrimination muriel_volestrangler Apr 2017 #72
O RLY. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2017 #81
I have a few suggestions for you. Mariana Apr 2017 #50
Yes this has devolved to the "is religion evil" forum HopeAgain Apr 2017 #57
You know, Jesus had something to say Mariana Apr 2017 #58
I don't feel persecuted HopeAgain Apr 2017 #59
It's actually not many at all Mariana Apr 2017 #64
Who said I was religious? HopeAgain Apr 2017 #67
Who said I was talking about you? Mariana Apr 2017 #69
I will. rug Apr 2017 #70
No, it hasn't Lordquinton Apr 2017 #66
What is going on is not discussion. rug Apr 2017 #71
'Straw'? Post #7 made accusations of bigotry, and claimed a member tried to 'stop discussion' muriel_volestrangler Apr 2017 #73
No, what post #7 pointed out was the derailment of a thread by people who don't like the topis. rug Apr 2017 #78
No, the accusation of bigotry was in #7, not in #73 muriel_volestrangler Apr 2017 #79
"Post #7 made accusations of bigotry" rug Apr 2017 #80
That's basically what I was saying Lordquinton Apr 2017 #82
I've read the bible. I've read Harry Potter too. Gore1FL Apr 2017 #25
Very very true. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #36
True. DavidDvorkin Apr 2017 #40
Thank you! Mme. Defarge Apr 2017 #4
You just reinforced my disbelief in all organized religion. Enoki33 Apr 2017 #5
Amen! zentrum Apr 2017 #6
The Immaculate Conception actually refers to the belief that the dflprincess Apr 2017 #17
Thing is, I think zentrum Apr 2017 #20
Perhaps, but that's not what 'the Immaculate Conception' is muriel_volestrangler Apr 2017 #74
You just made the point Curmudgeoness Apr 2017 #45
No. dflprincess Apr 2017 #53
The word missing from your post is "wife." /nt localroger Apr 2017 #8
Well, there's no evidence for that one, either. Warpy Apr 2017 #10
I have to wonder why the anti-religion folk feel the need to attack the religious. Stonepounder Apr 2017 #11
AMEN! Thank you for your wisdom. cornball 24 Apr 2017 #14
Statement of Purpose for the Religion Group: Mariana Apr 2017 #15
Point taken and thanks for pointing that out. Stonepounder Apr 2017 #19
Your comparison is not valid. Mariana Apr 2017 #21
I won't split hairs on my comparison. Stonepounder Apr 2017 #24
I see your sleight of hand there. Very obvious. AtheistCrusader Apr 2017 #32
What is very obvious are the methods used by some here. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #37
The Gospel of Mary of Magdala: Jesus and the First Woman Apostle Cryptoad Apr 2017 #13
What's wrong with her being a prostitute? Lordquinton Apr 2017 #18
She was not called a prostitute. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #38
What's the harm in her being written as a prostitute? Lordquinton Apr 2017 #42
One can call her whatever one wishes. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #49
She has never, ever been identified as such except by the misogynist bastards Warpy Apr 2017 #52
Let me rephrase my question Lordquinton Apr 2017 #60
Oh, you want to ask a question without context! Warpy Apr 2017 #61
I don't think you understand slut shaming Lordquinton Apr 2017 #62
Because she wasn't, which you'd know if you'd ever read the book Warpy Apr 2017 #63
No, you don't understand it at all still Lordquinton Apr 2017 #65
It's sometimes argued that identifying Magdalene (the 2nd most mentioned woman in the Gospels) muriel_volestrangler Apr 2017 #75
That's an actual answer, thanks Lordquinton Apr 2017 #83
Oldest copies Bear Creek Apr 2017 #22
They do have it edhopper Apr 2017 #30
Codex Bear Creek Apr 2017 #31
I thought they did edhopper Apr 2017 #41
God be praised for her life, wisdom, and witness. hrmjustin Apr 2017 #23
One of the greatest smear jobs of all time by organized religion. democratisphere Apr 2017 #27
Yes, of all the reputations ruined by organized religion... Act_of_Reparation Apr 2017 #33
How? Lordquinton Apr 2017 #44
hear hear! ProfessorPlum Apr 2017 #35
A positive post. Recommended. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #39
One thing I do know, it is time for the Mary Matalin myth to end still_one Apr 2017 #51
Myth? TexasTowelie Apr 2017 #54
oh yeah. LOL still_one Apr 2017 #55
The Ballad of Mary Magdalen... DreamGypsy Apr 2017 #56
If I remember correctly, okasha Apr 2017 #68
I read a theory years ago that she was actually Jesus's wife kimbutgar Apr 2017 #76
And that's abut the state of mythic scholarship. rug Apr 2017 #77
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