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trotsky

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132. But that's the key problem when religion is in the mix.

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 09:00 AM

Jul 2017

The bigotry is not only codified, but placed into the category of "sanctified by god." It becomes protected against the facts, it becomes an article of faith which even moderate believers will staunchly defend as legitimate.

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We Cant Ignore the Racism of the Most Famous Humanists in American History [View all] rug May 2017 OP

interesting heaven05 May 2017 #1

Here's some author info. rug May 2017 #2

thank you heaven05 May 2017 #3

It's the flip side of ad hominem. Igel May 2017 #4

Are you in the Alt Right? Bretton Garcia Jun 2017 #124

No, we can't. Was someone saying we should? trotsky May 2017 #5

There is a lot of attention being paid to it Lordquinton May 2017 #6

And have you actually done so? guillaumeb May 2017 #8

More often than the inverse Lordquinton May 2017 #12

I actually directed the question to another. guillaumeb May 2017 #17

My mistake, I thought this was an open forum Lordquinton May 2017 #20

Numerous times. Simply look at my recent posts for examples. guillaumeb May 2017 #21

You posted a middle of the line article Lordquinton May 2017 #26

Keep searching, if you really wish to. I have posted a few. guillaumeb May 2017 #29

Ok, lets look at them Lordquinton Jun 2017 #68

Each time I present a critical post, you are resetting the bar a bit higher. guillaumeb Jun 2017 #70

You still have yet to answer why posts at DU are required to please you. trotsky Jun 2017 #76

Still looking for those posts pointing out negative actions taken by non-theists. guillaumeb Jun 2017 #78

Good. trotsky Jun 2017 #79

I don't think those posts exist. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #80

I cannot say that they exist or not, guillaumeb Jun 2017 #81

lol that is the religion room for you. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #82

Amusing and revealing. guillaumeb Jun 2017 #83

Yes and I have my own hypocrisies here. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #84

As do we all. guillaumeb Jun 2017 #85

very true. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #86

Probably hard to see it Lordquinton Jun 2017 #89

Ah yes, the quick change of subject to avoid the actual point. guillaumeb Jun 2017 #93

That is a common tactic used by theists Lordquinton Jun 2017 #103

What an interesting way to attempt to frame and control discussion. guillaumeb Jun 2017 #106

And you avoid what I said and post an ad-hom Lordquinton Jun 2017 #108

Much that happens here is quite typical. guillaumeb Jun 2017 #116

Be the change you want to see. Lordquinton Jun 2017 #119

What would this group be like if everyone followed that suggestion? guillaumeb Jun 2017 #120

I am doing exactly what I intend to Lordquinton Jun 2017 #121

If someone frames a question in such a way as to permit only a negative guillaumeb Jun 2017 #122

Interesting that you view the questions I ask as only having negative answers Lordquinton Jun 2017 #123

I do not agree with the ruling, guillaumeb Jun 2017 #125

Took you long enough to get that out! Lordquinton Jun 2017 #126

I had no idea there was a time limit. guillaumeb Jun 2017 #127

I have yet to see a unequivocally critical post Lordquinton Jun 2017 #87

You set a very high bar for your perceived opponents. guillaumeb Jun 2017 #94

Here you go. trotsky Jun 2017 #95

A failure. guillaumeb Jun 2017 #96

WTF??? trotsky Jun 2017 #97

Mildly critical of the politics of one person, guillaumeb Jun 2017 #98

OK, about what I figured. trotsky Jun 2017 #99

One. guillaumeb Jun 2017 #100

Yes, one. trotsky Jun 2017 #101

You are blinded by privilege Lordquinton Jun 2017 #105

So the numerous coments about the stupidity of believers guillaumeb Jun 2017 #107

Example? Lordquinton Jun 2017 #109

Please. guillaumeb Jun 2017 #117

Ok Lordquinton Jun 2017 #118

A reminder for anyone who isn't familiar with your favorite example of "atheistic intolerance": trotsky Jun 2017 #45

Yes, and only one side of that story is presented. Mariana Jun 2017 #47

LOL, exactly. trotsky Jun 2017 #48

I think the answer is a no on that one. hrmjustin May 2017 #22

Well, as a relatively new member, guillaumeb May 2017 #23

Since I have been here I have not seen it happen. hrmjustin May 2017 #24

Interesting! guillaumeb May 2017 #25

Sigh. trotsky May 2017 #31

That did not answer his question. hrmjustin May 2017 #32

What did you really expect? guillaumeb May 2017 #33

This room is usually amusing and frustrating. hrmjustin May 2017 #34

I would say far more of the latter. guillaumeb May 2017 #36

Maybe they're hard to find Cartoonist Jun 2017 #46

Blaming your upbringing? guillaumeb Jun 2017 #53

Brainwashing is no joke Cartoonist Jun 2017 #56

Brainwashing is the pejorative term for socialization. guillaumeb Jun 2017 #57

Could be Cartoonist Jun 2017 #58

You MIGHT think that, (referring to your projection regarding atheist parents), guillaumeb Jun 2017 #64

It's the case for me. EvilAL Jun 2017 #128

Living a good life is the ultimate goal. guillaumeb Jun 2017 #129

What you wrote: guillaumeb May 2017 #35

Koresh almighty. trotsky May 2017 #37

I understand your answer, and expected it to take the form that it did. guillaumeb May 2017 #38

No, you don't understand my answer. trotsky May 2017 #39

A double standard? guillaumeb May 2017 #40

You just keep on doing what you're doing. trotsky Jun 2017 #43

Do you not realize that you are also setting an example? guillaumeb Jun 2017 #49

Well, as you've made clear in the past, you think I'm quite stupid. trotsky Jun 2017 #59

I am one of those "few people"? hrmjustin May 2017 #41

Well, considering you have received no response........... guillaumeb Jun 2017 #50

Oh I already knew and I am fine with it. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #55

Interesting! hrmjustin May 2017 #10

The same can be said edhopper May 2017 #7

Perhaps Rug is attempting to provide some perspective. guillaumeb May 2017 #9

As if edhopper May 2017 #11

We see more anti-religion posts in this room. hrmjustin May 2017 #13

what happened? edhopper May 2017 #14

I will pm you. hrmjustin May 2017 #15

What wish is that? Lordquinton May 2017 #27

if you say so. hrmjustin May 2017 #28

I have not personally seen any, quite the opposite in fact, guillaumeb May 2017 #16

I don't think edhopper May 2017 #18

Intolerance can be expressed in many ways. guillaumeb May 2017 #19

I include edhopper Jun 2017 #42

Any belief can be used to excuse doing harm to another. guillaumeb Jun 2017 #51

That's a completely and utterly false statement. trotsky Jun 2017 #61

And once again, since you're in the RELIGION group... trotsky Jun 2017 #44

I keep looking in the atheists group. guillaumeb Jun 2017 #52

So...? trotsky Jun 2017 #60

Keep checking the religious groups for negative posts about theists Lordquinton Jun 2017 #62

Ha! trotsky Jun 2017 #63

I personally have found many. guillaumeb Jun 2017 #65

Sure you have. n/t trotsky Jun 2017 #66

Astounding response. guillaumeb Jun 2017 #71

Yours deserved another. n/t trotsky Jun 2017 #74

Like the one you posted before? Lordquinton Jun 2017 #67

Or the one about the lawyer for the American Family Association. trotsky Jun 2017 #75

As you have seen believers here have no problem talking about the problems of religion. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #69

True. And "rug" is an example of a believer who constantly posts guillaumeb Jun 2017 #72

The room is not the same without him. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #73

Couldn't agree more Lordquinton Jun 2017 #88

Yes I know how you feel. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #90

I don't want to get into it for obvious reasons Lordquinton Jun 2017 #91

Yet here you are rubbing it in my face that my friend is flagged. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #92

That doesn't change the posters behavior Lordquinton Jun 2017 #102

. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #104

This is getting too deep into meta Lordquinton Jun 2017 #112

Just because you consider him a friend doesn't mean EvolveOrConvolve Jun 2017 #114

No one is without faults, but if you think he hated atheists than you weren't paying attention. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #115

Why is he flagged? AtheistCrusader Jun 2017 #110

I can't see his posts. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #111

Because Lordquinton Jun 2017 #113

Nor should we. Eko May 2017 #30

"We" do not Freethinker65 Jun 2017 #54

Applying modern day standards to the world of 200 years ago is a beachbum bob Jun 2017 #77

And of the most famous non-humanists too LeftishBrit Jul 2017 #130

Religions may have bigotry codified in their holy texts Bradical79 Jul 2017 #131

But that's the key problem when religion is in the mix. trotsky Jul 2017 #132

Absolutely Bradical79 Jul 2017 #133

We shouldn't ignore the racism of Jesus, either. Gore1FL Jul 2017 #134

Has anyone violated Godwin's law yet? beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #135