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67. Lol, you held it together until the last paragraph.

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Republican lobbyist to lead atheist group [View all] rug May 2012 OP

In my experience, conservative atheists have adopted "greed" as a theology immoderate May 2012 #1

There ARE no "Conservative Atheists"...there are Atheists who also happen to be conservative. brooklynite May 2012 #49

That's why I don't have to qualify it. immoderate May 2012 #74

She certainly gets around, doesn't she? cbayer May 2012 #2

Lotts. rug May 2012 #3

Don't know her, not much invested in the SCA, but there's potential here theoretically dmallind May 2012 #4

Rogers has spent half her career fighting those issues. rug May 2012 #6

OK - we disagree politically. Now - how does that impact absence of belief in gods again? dmallind May 2012 #26

The group that hired her has a specific political agenda. Else why hire a lobbyist? rug May 2012 #31

Her main concern seems to be edhopper May 2012 #5

The Right, religious or secular, does not need promotion. rug May 2012 #7

I did not see the implication that it did need promotion in the post you were replying to...(nt) eqfan592 May 2012 #9

It was the second point, regarding her concern about Republicans and the Religious Right. rug May 2012 #10

But might it also make them easier to work with on certain issues? eqfan592 May 2012 #12

I'm sorry. I'm way too cynical of the republican party's willingness, let alone ability, rug May 2012 #15

She does not work for the GOP edhopper May 2012 #13

By attracting conservatives? rug May 2012 #16

If they are conservatives who wish to conserve church-state separation, sure dmallind May 2012 #27

If they hire a lobbyist they are political. rug May 2012 #30

Duh. They are working on church/state separation. Goblinmonger May 2012 #32

In this case, the "they" is a republican lobbyist. rug May 2012 #40

So it is your contention Goblinmonger May 2012 #42

It is my contention that you can't hire republicans to advocate your position. rug May 2012 #43

That's pretty single-minded Goblinmonger May 2012 #44

When it comes to republicans that's a prudent approach. rug May 2012 #45

The Pope reference just brings in your hypocrisy. Goblinmonger May 2012 #51

We could be discussing fried eggs and you'd bring in the Pope. rug May 2012 #52

Nice dodge. And I don't care the Pope's views on fried eggs. Goblinmonger May 2012 #53

Dodge? You're the one trying to change the subject rug May 2012 #54

If the organization wants to attract like-minded people to fight church/state separation Goblinmonger May 2012 #56

Do you consider conservatives "like-minded people"? rug May 2012 #57

There are Republicans that are like-minded on church state separation. Yes. Goblinmonger May 2012 #58

And there are republicans who advocate church state separation while simultaneuesly supporting the rug May 2012 #59

Yep. And this organization is not about supporting Repub or Dem agendas. Goblinmonger May 2012 #60

There seems to be a divergence in viewpoints. rug May 2012 #64

Well, trotsky isn't my sock puppet so he's can post what he wants. Goblinmonger May 2012 #89

Bullshit dmallind May 2012 #46

No it isn't. rug May 2012 #47

Yes it is - a career salesman for Pfizer couldn't sell Merck? dmallind May 2012 #48

I prefer a career salesman for Merck than a Bush White House staffer. rug May 2012 #50

Go to secular.org. trotsky May 2012 #61

Why are they recruiting conservatives? rug May 2012 #62

The SCA is not, by definition a liberal political organization. trotsky May 2012 #65

Lol, you held it together until the last paragraph. rug May 2012 #67

I'm sorry rug but your hypocrisy on all these issues is just too glaring. trotsky May 2012 #75

Ok, right after we finish discussing the atheist organization hiring republicans to recruit conserva rug May 2012 #77

The SCA isn't actually an "atheist" organization, rug. trotsky May 2012 #79

Is there a difference between atheist Americans and nontheistic Americans? rug May 2012 #80

I understand why you are desperate to go off topic. trotsky May 2012 #81

That's taken directly from your excerpt. rug May 2012 #82

You have failed to stay on topic. trotsky May 2012 #83

I admit defeat. rug May 2012 #84

I don't expect the SCA to HAVE a progressive agenda. dmallind May 2012 #69

Ok, we're back on track. rug May 2012 #71

Yes atheism is simply an absence of belief dmallind May 2012 #63

Maybe, but at what cost beyond that single issue? rug May 2012 #66

What do you mean? SCA SHOULD be single issue, with no beyond at all dmallind May 2012 #70

Because lobbying republicans and conservatives comes at a cost, especially with this lobbyist. rug May 2012 #72

Why would they ask the SCA for those things? What can they do? dmallind May 2012 #73

It is good you brought up NARAL as a specific example here. trotsky May 2012 #76

SCA would provide cover and credibility. rug May 2012 #78

I disagree... Joseph8th May 2012 #90

What part of my post did you not understand? edhopper May 2012 #11

Except Silverman overtly expressed his hopes that her appointment will attract conservatives to his rug May 2012 #14

I disagree edhopper May 2012 #17

Then we'll disagree. rug May 2012 #18

AND edhopper May 2012 #19

No, I saw the point. rug May 2012 #20

I don't want to see more Republicans/ Tories/ etc. of any sort! LeftishBrit May 2012 #21

+1 rug May 2012 #23

I rather suspect her main concern is furthering herself politically, but that's just cbayer May 2012 #8

One one hand, I do want more acceptance of atheists, ZombieHorde May 2012 #22

I agree completely with both sentiments. rug May 2012 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author edhopper May 2012 #28

+1000 LeftishBrit May 2012 #68

This may be more appropriate for Creative Speculation, but it's a thought I had. laconicsax May 2012 #25

So do all the people here edhopper May 2012 #29

Depends on what the Republican leader does as the leader. ZombieHorde May 2012 #85

Thanks edhopper May 2012 #88

This Edwina Rogers? struggle4progress May 2012 #33

Why, s4p, she's just a little girl from Alabama. cbayer May 2012 #34

So when she gives a gift, it bears the message... Silent3 May 2012 #35

When she gives a gift, it brings the message "I throw lots of money away" struggle4progress May 2012 #36

Yeah, that too. Silent3 May 2012 #37

Has she even declared herself an atheist? cbayer May 2012 #38

Don't know edhopper May 2012 #39

To be clear she is being paid to advocate for secularism in government. cbayer May 2012 #41

Don't think I am a supporter of hers edhopper May 2012 #55

Actually that holds true for any atheist who decides to give a cash gift to somebody. eqfan592 May 2012 #87

Atheism =/= Political Enlightenment Taverner May 2012 #86