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trotsky

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20. Right. OK, here, I'll give you yet another chance.

Reply to guillaumeb (Reply #18)

Thu Aug 3, 2017, 03:47 PM

Aug 2017

Here is your definition of "belief system":

A belief system is any system that requires a belief in its validity.

According to this definition, telling the time is a belief system. It is a system that requires belief in the validity of measuring the passage of time.

Driving is a belief system, because it requires belief in the vailidity of using chemical energy to create physical motion.

Masturbating is a belief system, because it requires belief that engaging in the physical act of stimulating one's own genitals will result in sexual climax.

Compare and contrast to Christianity, which is a set of statements about non-physical "truths" outside the universe (namely that a god exists, and that it has specific attributes), combined with a belief that said god delivered its message to us in a text we call the bible, which contains instructions about how that god wants us to behave.

Are you saying that last item is EXACTLY THE SAME as the other examples I gave?

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Bad news: Cabinet members study Bible together weekly [View all] guillaumeb Aug 2017 OP

This Episcopalian thinks that sucks wryter2000 Aug 2017 #1

Agreed. Keep it to yourself. eom guillaumeb Aug 2017 #8

. DURHAM D Aug 2017 #2

Gods. What a nest of antichristian vipers bullimiami Aug 2017 #3

Woe to you njhoneybadger Aug 2017 #4

No matter their beliefs, I would rather that they realize that their actual jobs guillaumeb Aug 2017 #6

For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from Motley13 Aug 2017 #5

I do not care what they call themselves, guillaumeb Aug 2017 #7

We'd all prefer that atreides1 Aug 2017 #53

Ring The Bells Zoonart Aug 2017 #9

One hopes that 2018 will be that "hear from me (us)" moment for the GOP. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #10

Bible study at work is not prohibited if you do it on your own time marylandblue Aug 2017 #11

I know this, but it sends an implicit message which conflicts with the Establishment Clause. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #12

May I suggest everyone send them selected bible verses to study? Dustlawyer Aug 2017 #52

You were doing so well up until your last line. trotsky Aug 2017 #13

A belief system is any system that requires a belief in its validity. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #14

You are equivocating again. trotsky Aug 2017 #15

You are promoting your agenda, and your own beliefs again. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #16

As you promote your agenda, and your own beliefs. Not sure how this is supposed to hurt my point. trotsky Aug 2017 #17

I liked how you launched yet more personal attacks, even as you call for guillaumeb Aug 2017 #18

Right. OK, here, I'll give you yet another chance. trotsky Aug 2017 #20

Your examples are ridiculous. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #22

How so? trotsky Aug 2017 #35

Please accept my congratulations on your tremendous victory. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #37

Thanks! trotsky Aug 2017 #39

As to "rewording", all anyone here can do is look at the post about drive-through Jesus guillaumeb Aug 2017 #40

"it makes me wonder where the miscommunication is" trotsky Aug 2017 #41

Well, now I know. eom guillaumeb Aug 2017 #43

It's good you have your own personal view of why there is miscommunication. trotsky Aug 2017 #46

Well, it is supported by the actual post to which I referred. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #48

Again, that's just your personal opinion. trotsky Aug 2017 #50

Are you at war with sentence construction and word usage? guillaumeb Aug 2017 #55

Clearly I hit a nerve. trotsky Aug 2017 #58

No, it is an observation based on what you felt that you read in another post. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #60

Yes, please, drag your other thread into this one. trotsky Aug 2017 #61

Sometimes you amaze me. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #63

Yeah, thanks, but if there is one thing I've learned in trying to dialog with you... trotsky Aug 2017 #67

What a coincidence!! eom guillaumeb Aug 2017 #68

Aw, the old "I know you are but what am I" defense. trotsky Aug 2017 #69

No, simply a recognition based on a few years of dealing with your "questions" guillaumeb Aug 2017 #70

Oh, I see. trotsky Aug 2017 #71

"Deserve" is irrelevant. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #73

Yes, I understand that you judge others. trotsky Aug 2017 #74

Judging others is a human characteristic. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #75

Did not your deity instruct you not to judge? Act_of_Reparation Aug 2017 #76

But if one only notices the act of judging when it is done by a believer, guillaumeb Aug 2017 #78

"Judge not lest ye be judged." trotsky Aug 2017 #77

And do you feel that this admonition is applicable only to Christians? guillaumeb Aug 2017 #79

There you go with your whataboutism again. trotsky Aug 2017 #80

There you go again. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #81

Yeah, I know. trotsky Aug 2017 #82

Some people aren't fans of your heavy handed framing. Lordquinton Aug 2017 #19

But if you believe in the economic model of capitalism that is a belief in capitalism. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #23

Whether you believe in it or not it exists Lordquinton Aug 2017 #24

I am not redefining, I am insisting on the plain meaning of the terms "belief" and "belief-system". guillaumeb Aug 2017 #25

You're redefining things to fit your agenda Lordquinton Aug 2017 #26

No, it is you who is insisting on one single definition. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #27

Ok, so you ask for a picture of something to provide proof Lordquinton Aug 2017 #28

I gave you an example of what a belief system actually is. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #30

Capitalism is the word we use to describe this specific economic system Lordquinton Aug 2017 #32

I see buildings and sports facilities, and vehicles. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #33

You don't see the inequality? Lordquinton Aug 2017 #34

It's wonderful when he commits himself to his ridiculous definitions... trotsky Aug 2017 #36

Ah yes, the inequality. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #38

The key problem here is that you really don't understand what atheism is. trotsky Aug 2017 #42

Thank you for explaining your personal view of atheism. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #44

Oh not this nonsense. trotsky Aug 2017 #45

Are you the official spokesperson for atheists everywhere? No. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #47

I'm closer to one than you are, that's for damn sure. trotsky Aug 2017 #49

Your framing, again. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #54

Yeah, sure, it's "framing" to point out that what you do to atheists, trotsky Aug 2017 #57

People can read what I say and judge from that. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #59

Indeed they can, and indeed they do. trotsky Aug 2017 #62

What countries are you using as an example here? Lordquinton Aug 2017 #64

He doesn't care. trotsky Aug 2017 #72

I see they like fiction Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #21

when the money plate goes around, Trump collects it. SummerSnow Aug 2017 #29

He does seem to worship himself. So it is fine if he takes the money. eom guillaumeb Aug 2017 #31

Anyone know if this takes place on WH grounds?? riversedge Aug 2017 #51

The article reads as follows: guillaumeb Aug 2017 #56

Thanks for the links (I had read the story to no avail). Still unclear but hard to believe all of riversedge Aug 2017 #65

I find it difficult to believe also. eom guillaumeb Aug 2017 #66