Religion

Voltaire2

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34. That is interesting but of course there was no "undivided church".

Mon Aug 21, 2017, 06:26 PM

Aug 2017

The factionalism was manifest before the end of the first century, that is to say it was present at or near the foundation of christianity. There are denominations today, coptics for example, that trace their history back to the beginnings of christianity and that split from the byzantine "orthodox" church much earlier than 1064 - the copts did it in 451.

In the first four centuries christians within the roman empire were fighting factional battles over absurd doctrinal nuances and frequently slaughtering each other.

There has never been an undivided church.

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There is something wrong with every Christian denomination. [View all] MineralMan Aug 2017 OP

for a lot of christians they are hard pressed to understtand what they believe Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #1

That is true, no doubt. MineralMan Aug 2017 #3

It's a patriarchal based religion SHRED Aug 2017 #2

That is certainly part of it. MineralMan Aug 2017 #4

"My father knows best" SHRED Aug 2017 #5

I think religion is as individual as fingerprints. Mariana Aug 2017 #6

I said that very same thing to one just the other day Angry Dragon Aug 2017 #8

I agree with what you are saying Eko Aug 2017 #7

You are right edhopper Aug 2017 #9

Absolutely correct, and thanks. MineralMan Aug 2017 #10

Hi MineralMan - Thank you for posting your comments. Pendrench Aug 2017 #11

Thanks. There is a central core to Christianity, of course. MineralMan Aug 2017 #12

I agree...I'm sure that you've probably seen this from Monty Python's Life of Brian: Pendrench Aug 2017 #13

Oh, yes. I've posted that here many times, as well. MineralMan Aug 2017 #14

You're very welcome. Pendrench Aug 2017 #15

Islam is also divided into sects, as is Buddhism. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #16

That there are no gods, and religion is simply an idea like any other? n/t trotsky Aug 2017 #17

One interpretation. But there are others that suggest themselves. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #18

Can you discuss the issue, or are you going to fling insults? trotsky Aug 2017 #19

I asked a question. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #20

Thanks for confirming what a good Christian you are. n/t trotsky Aug 2017 #21

I ask again, guillaumeb Aug 2017 #22

First, convince me you're sincere. trotsky Aug 2017 #23

A false accusation. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #24

Then you shall receive the response you deserve. trotsky Aug 2017 #25

Lol this pattern is so predictable at times. hrmjustin Aug 2017 #27

One must always remain "on script". guillaumeb Aug 2017 #28

Some people enjoy playing the victim in this room. hrmjustin Aug 2017 #29

I am still waiting for an explanation of the response. eom guillaumeb Aug 2017 #30

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Do you have the ability to point out where he insulted you or hrmjustin Aug 2017 #26

Are you familair with the term 'false bifurcation'? AtheistCrusader Aug 2017 #45

Isn't that a binary view of a situation? Lordquinton Aug 2017 #46

Let me review it and get back to you. AtheistCrusader Aug 2017 #47

Ok, I'll just wait here Lordquinton Aug 2017 #48

I wait for credible evidence of any of them. AtheistCrusader Aug 2017 #43

It apparently works for you. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #49

That religion is a human construct entirely, MineralMan Aug 2017 #36

The forms of religion are indeed constructed by humans. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #37

OK. I don't disagree. MineralMan Aug 2017 #38

We might, but we can do so in an agreable fashion. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #39

I try not to be disagreeable. MineralMan Aug 2017 #40

That's akin to saying that the books of Harry Potter are fiction, trotsky Aug 2017 #42

Have books of fiction ever been written about real characters? guillaumeb Aug 2017 #50

Oh, ok, sure. So where's your original historical documentation proving your god character is real? trotsky Aug 2017 #58

Not as enduring as you think... AtheistCrusader Aug 2017 #44

True, believers comprise no more than 85% or so of the population. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #51

Argumentum ad populum fallacy. trotsky Aug 2017 #59

That it's all bullshit. AtheistCrusader Aug 2017 #60

Succinct, guillaumeb Aug 2017 #61

It is trivial for me to observe many (not all) of the religions in mass play today are AtheistCrusader Aug 2017 #62

If every separate religion is a reflection of an aspect of the Creator, guillaumeb Aug 2017 #63

Most (not all) make truth claims about the nature or powers or desires of their favored form of AtheistCrusader Aug 2017 #64

An interesting diagram. Mme. Defarge Aug 2017 #32

That is interesting but of course there was no "undivided church". Voltaire2 Aug 2017 #34

Thanks for that graphical representation! MineralMan Aug 2017 #35

An utterly nonsensical diagram. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2017 #41

no text, just sprinkleeninow Aug 2017 #33

Every sect or faction of Christianity, has to micro manage scripture and belief. YOHABLO Aug 2017 #52

The result of trying to create power structures from a mystical/spiritual teaching The Blue Flower Aug 2017 #53

I agree that there's something wrong with every christian denomination. Iggo Aug 2017 #54

Must be why people keep leaving Not Ruth Aug 2017 #55

We Episcopalians are fairly humble wryter2000 Aug 2017 #56

LOL! MineralMan Aug 2017 #57