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Act_of_Reparation

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45. Yes, my agenda...

Tue Sep 12, 2017, 02:12 PM

Sep 2017

...is to affect the downfall of religion by tooling around an internet backwater trying to explain the difference between science and logic to people who clearly understand neither. You've really sussed me out. There goes my nefarious plan.

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Question from an Agnostic regarding natural disasters [View all] Funtatlaguy Sep 2017 OP

Logic can only come to two conclusions Alpeduez21 Sep 2017 #1

Does not reconcile mehrrh Sep 2017 #18

Human logic, with human limitations. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #36

sure because we just can't comprehend how a loving intercessionary god deems dead children to be Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #49

I might ask the same of you. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #57

I don't have your problem. Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #71

Is there another kind of logic? beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #56

Do you assume that human intelligence and logic are without limitations? eom guillaumeb Sep 2017 #58

Nice try, but it doesn't answer my question about logic. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #61

If sentient life exists on other planets, there could be many types of logic. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #63

So you must have access to these different types of logic. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #64

Note the qualifiers "if" and "could". guillaumeb Sep 2017 #65

But you said human logic was insufficient so you must have had another kind for comparison. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #66

Again: Human logic, with human limitations. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #67

But you made a definitive statement - you said HUMAN logic was lacking. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #68

Not what I actually said, but you are free to reframe as you see the need. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #69

Nope, that's what you said. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #70

Duh, bmus. trotsky Sep 2017 #72

Of course! beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #73

you are correct, but I understand our great God's logic snooper2 Sep 2017 #75

there is at least a third option Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #48

I agree, but on the other hand... Trueblue Texan Sep 2017 #2

They tend to believe they are powerless only in selected areas marylandblue Sep 2017 #4

You're trying to reconcile faith with logic/reason markbark Sep 2017 #3

+1 for 'ignorant goat rapers' :) docgee Sep 2017 #6

How do you know it wasn't consensual? PJMcK Sep 2017 #76

Historical mehrrh Sep 2017 #19

Best post I have read in months, maybe years The Mouth Sep 2017 #25

If it could be proven through logic, they would not have to call it faith. thesquanderer Sep 2017 #26

Or, as Mark Twain put it... chaplain_M Sep 2017 #42

Itinerant goat rapers Funtatlaguy Sep 2017 #28

Absolute unquestioning faith that the authority figure is right, & he only wants what's best for us ehrnst Sep 2017 #5

"questioning is evidence you are corrupt" chia Sep 2017 #8

Reusable text... BobsYourUncle Sep 2017 #16

Religion spike91nz Sep 2017 #7

And we see the same tactics in politics. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #9

Interesting intersection between Capitalism and Religion... ewagner Sep 2017 #15

To quote Epicurus: lutherj Sep 2017 #10

I recognize your post as rhetorical. notKeith Sep 2017 #11

Not exactly. Funtatlaguy Sep 2017 #12

Even the existence of an afterlife would not be proof of a God. (n/t) thesquanderer Sep 2017 #24

there are no people who have actually died and come back to life. Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #50

you're not wrong. barbtries Sep 2017 #13

Very good points. Funtatlaguy Sep 2017 #14

i don't know how bad it can get first. barbtries Sep 2017 #31

It is easier to assume that God is in control rather than that no one is in control. kentuck Sep 2017 #17

I love your posts Funtatlaguy Sep 2017 #21

Proof positive that there's no god. Mr. Evil Sep 2017 #20

God has given man free will. kentuck Sep 2017 #22

Prayer gilligan Sep 2017 #23

Maybe God is like Loki, the god of mischief, or the Egyptian god, Set, god of chaos. tclambert Sep 2017 #27

Would explain much Funtatlaguy Sep 2017 #30

You are right, IMO. By father is an evangelist. Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #29

its that internal-external locus of control thing samnsara Sep 2017 #32

Faith is belief in the abscence of proof. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #33

No one was challenged to prove their faith. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2017 #34

Faith is not based on proving anything. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #35

Golf is not based on butterscotch. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2017 #40

Your agenda is showing. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #41

Yes, my agenda... Act_of_Reparation Sep 2017 #45

Different kind of faith marylandblue Sep 2017 #43

But there is a type of faith in the stated purposes and ideals of the country. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #44

Yes, but that has evidence to back it up marylandblue Sep 2017 #47

Oh, so you DO understand even though you pretend not to. AtheistCrusader Sep 2017 #54

He uses equivocation when it benefits his argument, of course. n/t trotsky Sep 2017 #55

I know you've told this before, but using equivocation to argue a point is fallacious. Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #51

Except the country actually exists Lordquinton Sep 2017 #59

When you say that "the country already exists", guillaumeb Sep 2017 #62

Yes, it's a social construct Lordquinton Sep 2017 #74

Religious belief has a certain logic to it as does religious faith, but MineralMan Sep 2017 #37

The folks across the street from us Plucketeer Sep 2017 #38

Whoa...heckuva neighborhood Funtatlaguy Sep 2017 #39

Truth is Plucketeer Sep 2017 #46

Deists have the easiest time of all believers Warpy Sep 2017 #52

There can be immense beauty in randomness.... Tikki Sep 2017 #53

God is an abusive father Lordquinton Sep 2017 #60