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djean111

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9. Actually, no. I don't.
Mon May 7, 2012, 09:30 AM
May 2012

And any time this sort of subject comes up, it seems to be, at the heart of it, some sort of attempt to push atheists into some variation of religion. Anyway, all just definitions - I consider believing in a "god with powers" is religion. Worshiping anything, I supposed, can be pushed or pulled into some variation of "religion".
No worship here, no conversations or expectations. I had an NDE, and for me, worship of a god is out of the question.
Calling what I feel "religious" is disingenuous. These conversations are about whether someone worships a higher power.
And I don't consider I have faith or belief, just a calm knowledge of what happened to me personally. Other opinions about that seem silly at best.

Don't feel you need to label everything. Doesn't work for anyone but yourself.

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The archbishop can go fuck himself. Goblinmonger May 2012 #1
You're a such cheery sunbeam today! struggle4progress May 2012 #2
Oh, I'm sorry. Goblinmonger May 2012 #3
You've certainly got this one pegged. darkstar3 May 2012 #20
If I keep reading here I can get rid of all of my cats. rug May 2012 #19
Goblinmonger's answer was the correct one. 2ndAmForComputers May 2012 #42
Thank you. djean111 May 2012 #5
I caught that also, and decided to read no further. madmom May 2012 #15
Personally I follow the Loftus line intaglio May 2012 #4
I believe in spirits, but djean111 May 2012 #6
Religions don't have to include worship intaglio May 2012 #8
Actually, no. I don't. djean111 May 2012 #9
That "calm knowledge" of something that many people would find disputable... Silent3 May 2012 #23
but it doesn't matter if others find it disputable. djean111 May 2012 #25
Part of what makes religion religion... Silent3 May 2012 #26
No matter how you twist it and turn it, djean111 May 2012 #27
Your personal lack of need for proof is the very point I'm making. Silent3 May 2012 #28
You are getting a bit shrill and nonsensical. djean111 May 2012 #32
Whether you'd consider yourself "stunned" is hardly central to what I'm saying Silent3 May 2012 #36
Post removed Post removed May 2012 #29
How fallible tama May 2012 #37
How much doubt does doubt require? Silent3 May 2012 #38
OK tama May 2012 #39
Works for me. n/t Silent3 May 2012 #40
just a calm knowledge of what happened to me personally. AlbertCat May 2012 #33
Well, no djean111 May 2012 #34
How on earth did you get the idea that you can state with certainty what my childhood was like? AlbertCat May 2012 #35
Personally I follow the Loftus line AlbertCat May 2012 #30
Of course it's always "something else." trotsky May 2012 #7
Two answers, Bish. dmallind May 2012 #10
I want to Rec this post about a billion times. trotsky May 2012 #12
+6.022×10²³! n/t Silent3 May 2012 #21
n/t Plantaganet May 2012 #41
"Something else" is an ingenious way of saying it. Jim__ May 2012 #11
As an atheist, I have a very clear message that I want every religious person to hear. pennylane100 May 2012 #13
You hit the point! bongbong May 2012 #18
Typical arrogant theist bullshit. mr blur May 2012 #14
What do people who don't collect stamps "believe" about stamp collecting? stopbush May 2012 #16
Well, whatever it is Goblinmonger May 2012 #17
But then again, there are those that don't now collect stamps but... edcantor May 2012 #22
Do you mean "Progressive" Stamp Collecting? nt mr blur May 2012 #24
You just don't understand other ways of collecting. AlbertCat May 2012 #31
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