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In reply to the discussion: Scientists discover that atheists might not exist, and thats not a joke [View all]trotsky
(49,533 posts)61. Some responses to your 3+ year old blog post:
https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2014/07/13/confused-science-writer-claims-that-atheists-might-not-exist/
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/dispatches/2014/07/17/another-moronic-claim-that-atheists-dont-exist/
http://unsettledchristianity.com/it-is-nearly-impossible-for-an-atheist-to-exist-or-science-writers-for-that-matter-science/
Some interesting thoughts that cast more than a little doubt on your "science" "article."
...religion might well be the byproduct of evolved tendencies: tendencies to see agency (as Boyer thinks), to be credulous when were young (its adaptive to believe what your elders tell you), or to deal with our unique and dispiriting knowledge of mortality. But we can overcome all these tendencies, and many of us atheists have. Certainly most of the readers of this site go on functioning perfectly well knowing that were going to die without an afterlife, and believing pretty confidently that there is no God.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/dispatches/2014/07/17/another-moronic-claim-that-atheists-dont-exist/
I count myself among those who does believe that there may well be elements of human development that make us more likely to believe in supernatural agency, particularly a tendency toward dualism. But anyone who leaps from that idea to claim that atheism is psychologically impossible needs to take a remedial course in logic immediately. This is the mother of all non-sequiturs.
http://unsettledchristianity.com/it-is-nearly-impossible-for-an-atheist-to-exist-or-science-writers-for-that-matter-science/
Indeed, the conclusions in Lawtons original piece may in fact surprise the science writer. Basically, his assumptions go like this. Atheists cant exist because humans are hardwired to express/desire the common elements found in religion. You should be able to see through that pretty easily.
But, I want to add another wrinkle, if I may. What if there are no believers or atheists? If free will is an illusion, then we are but what we are meant to be in some fashion. This doesnt mean I am in favor of determinism, but if our choices' are shaped by external influences, then our choices are chained to that which surrounds us. Thus, if one is an atheist or a believer, then it has something to do with an outside influence and cannot be the individuals choice. Thus, there is no conscious effort to believe in God (thus, no believers) and there is no free will analysis capable of producing an unbelief in God (thus, no atheists) because we follow the path laid out before us and can only work within those influences.
But, I want to add another wrinkle, if I may. What if there are no believers or atheists? If free will is an illusion, then we are but what we are meant to be in some fashion. This doesnt mean I am in favor of determinism, but if our choices' are shaped by external influences, then our choices are chained to that which surrounds us. Thus, if one is an atheist or a believer, then it has something to do with an outside influence and cannot be the individuals choice. Thus, there is no conscious effort to believe in God (thus, no believers) and there is no free will analysis capable of producing an unbelief in God (thus, no atheists) because we follow the path laid out before us and can only work within those influences.
Some interesting thoughts that cast more than a little doubt on your "science" "article."
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Scientists discover that atheists might not exist, and thats not a joke [View all]
guillaumeb
Nov 2017
OP
You found it interesting because you feel it justifies faith, broadly.
Act_of_Reparation
Nov 2017
#58
The author of the essay you referenced in the OP didn't even offer that much evidence.
AtheistCrusader
Nov 2017
#84
True. And no matter the "label" we wear, it is our actions that define us. eom
guillaumeb
Nov 2017
#12
It was soundly refuted years ago, but the site authors don't care. It's still good clickbait.
AtheistCrusader
Nov 2017
#89
The 'science' site you referenced in the OP doesn't require even that much.
AtheistCrusader
Nov 2017
#92
Your overall theology seems to be that ultimate reality, God, cannot be known with certainty.
Bretton Garcia
Nov 2017
#145
He keeps saying 'scientists say' or 'have discovered', yet he cites no actual papers.
SeattleVet
Nov 2017
#65
Opinion pieces on science still have an obligation to represent science correctly
marylandblue
Nov 2017
#111
Not all humans are predisposed to faith. A large percentage, but it is not universal.
AtheistCrusader
Nov 2017
#81
That's like pointing to intrinsic racist bias and claiming it makes us all Nazis.
enki23
Nov 2017
#99
I don't think we are wired for belief. I think we are wired for fear.
Binkie The Clown
Nov 2017
#131