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MineralMan

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65. No. I'm asking a question. What if?

Sat Nov 11, 2017, 04:47 PM

Nov 2017

And what if that natural phenomenon were mistaken as something deific?

What if the universe simply is? There are many questions. I've seen the math for black holes and singularities. I've seen the myth for deities. I prefer math, frankly. But, if people want to look at the singularity that led to our universe as a deity, they're welcome to do so. They're also welcome to look at their deity as an old man in the sky somewhere.

I asked a question and invited commentary.

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BOOM! MineralMan Nov 2017 #2

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If there is something then there can be anything California_Republic Nov 2017 #81

There was nothing; then it exploded unc70 Nov 2017 #3

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Well not actually dhol82 Nov 2017 #16

Why not? The Blue Flower Nov 2017 #6

A Verse OhNo-Really Nov 2017 #53

You're assuming that reaction was created for us Lordquinton Nov 2017 #71

That's a common enough thing. MineralMan Nov 2017 #78

Thats being... Snackshack Nov 2017 #8

Is existence limited to your imagination? guillaumeb Nov 2017 #13

That's a different theory. MineralMan Nov 2017 #21

So the singularity post is limited to a single theory? guillaumeb Nov 2017 #27

Start your own. MineralMan Nov 2017 #31

I dont believe so. Snackshack Nov 2017 #35

Agreed on the point. eom guillaumeb Nov 2017 #36

According to Stephen Hawking: SCantiGOP Nov 2017 #9

Yup. MineralMan Nov 2017 #10

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Define the nothing that became everything. eom guillaumeb Nov 2017 #29

That would require SCantiGOP Nov 2017 #41

It would be interesting... rlegro Nov 2017 #49

Hitchhikers Guide SCantiGOP Nov 2017 #68

How about you first? Lordquinton Nov 2017 #70

I already did just that. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #79

'It's so wrong, it must have been right'. AtheistCrusader Nov 2017 #84

That's a fine answer Lordquinton Nov 2017 #89

After your reply to #29. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #92

That is the correct ordering, yes Lordquinton Nov 2017 #94

Read it again, and after you reply, remind me of your question again. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #95

You forgot already? Lordquinton Nov 2017 #96

Amazing how a choir can sing in harmony. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #97

More like a Greek chorus Lordquinton Nov 2017 #98

Yet another verse of the choir's song. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #99

Greek chorus Lordquinton Nov 2017 #114

What is predictable is that, no matter how often I respond, guillaumeb Nov 2017 #122

Yes, we're all reading from your posts Lordquinton Nov 2017 #125

Your first paragraph contains utter nonsense. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #126

This is too good Lordquinton Nov 2017 #144

Again, you either misread or misframed the issue. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #149

I mean everyone who has read the threads Lordquinton Nov 2017 #157

Right, keep preaching to the converted. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #163

Another take on your reply: guillaumeb Nov 2017 #127

What confused you so much about the question you refused to answer? Lordquinton Nov 2017 #145

So you refuse to answer? guillaumeb Nov 2017 #150

Wrong again G-man Lordquinton Nov 2017 #158

As I thought. A wise decision on your part. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #164

That doesn't even make sense Lordquinton Nov 2017 #168

Simply following the lead of the choir. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #169

Why? trotsky Nov 2017 #85

Isn't "time" an illusion in the realm of Infinity OhNo-Really Nov 2017 #54

Time is a flat circle Lordquinton Nov 2017 #72

The "Big Bang" was debunked years ago. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #152

Yea, it's a terrible show Lordquinton Nov 2017 #160

The Great Spirit is here, there and everywhere throughout the Cosmos. democratisphere Nov 2017 #11

This discussion has infinite potential, and none. MineralMan Nov 2017 #12

I believe infinite kinetic potential. democratisphere Nov 2017 #15

Quick and simple.. MineralMan Nov 2017 #18

Over and out. democratisphere Nov 2017 #23

Will do. MineralMan Nov 2017 #26

Let there be light. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #14

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Shine a light on it for me. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #25

Hum a few bars. MineralMan Nov 2017 #28

Ouch!!!!! guillaumeb Nov 2017 #32

That's the best an almighty powerful EvilAL Nov 2017 #86

Do you understand narrative, and literary devices? eom guillaumeb Nov 2017 #87

Are you suggesting the authors of Genesis didn't actually believe in a six-day creation? Act_of_Reparation Nov 2017 #91

I cannot answer for the authors. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #93

You just did. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2017 #100

Nice catch. trotsky Nov 2017 #108

An interesting bit of illogic you displayed. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #109

Illogic? Please explain. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2017 #110

No, I will leave it to you to read the thread and perhaps guillaumeb Nov 2017 #113

No, this one requires some explanation. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2017 #115

No explanation needed, AoR. trotsky Nov 2017 #116

Look at #1, where I offer a personal opinion. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #123

Do I need to define "incredulity" for you? Act_of_Reparation Nov 2017 #129

Again, I cannot understand your leap of 'logic". guillaumeb Nov 2017 #130

Perhaps it is because you seem to believe opinions are justified by virtue of their own existence. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2017 #131

I have previously answered that one also. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #132

Ahaha. 😉 You ain't 👴! eom sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #103

There are those who do not. n/t sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #102

Clearly true. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #111

Do you understand that EvilAL Nov 2017 #107

Do you understand that what I wrote is my opinion? guillaumeb Nov 2017 #112

So God inspired them to write a particular story.... Act_of_Reparation Nov 2017 #117

Figurative language and symbolism. Because. End of message. sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #118

Yeah, OK. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2017 #121

Wottt? sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #136

No. The point is that the biblical cosmology was accepted as accurate for about 1400 Voltaire2 Nov 2017 #139

Please go read what (Eastern) Orthodox Christianity founded in 33 A.D. (or B.C.E. sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #143

I have no idea what point you might think you are making. Voltaire2 Nov 2017 #153

I understand all that regarding canonical gospel, and when they were sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #154

I should refrain from posting when nearly incoherent. sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #155

I'd exclaim, "Oh for God's sake", but that utterance would rattle you. sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #137

I think most people are just trying to figure out your "aw, shucks" thing. trotsky Nov 2017 #141

Please show me exactly what you are meaning. sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #146

Plus, just bc I'm christyan doesn't mean sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #147

Mysterious ways..... EvilAL Nov 2017 #120

Of course I understand that. EvilAL Nov 2017 #119

If you were talking to Bronze Age human, after arriving in your time machine, guillaumeb Nov 2017 #124

I could easily explain the solar system to them. EvilAL Nov 2017 #134

You think you could easily do so. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #142

I have the proof that people back then EvilAL Nov 2017 #148

Keep believeing that. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #151

Well I can prove people weren't EvilAL Nov 2017 #159

Okay. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #165

Glad you agree. EvilAL Nov 2017 #166

Is good a time traveler now? Lordquinton Nov 2017 #161

To be fair, this God we're talking about is completely incompetent. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2017 #162

So that's it a spelling mistake? Lordquinton Nov 2017 #167

One thing is for sure. Eko Nov 2017 #17

Nah. God was and then was not. MineralMan Nov 2017 #20

And he "created" Eko Nov 2017 #22

We are where we can be. MineralMan Nov 2017 #24

We used to not be Eko Nov 2017 #30

From Buckaroo Banzai: rlegro Nov 2017 #50

"We're not all here because we're not all there." 🤣 No text. sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #104

My brother is a pantheist - OhZone Nov 2017 #33

That's not half bad. (Not a wise acreage remark from me.) end of message sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #106

Sorry, can't believe there is GOD because quartz007 Nov 2017 #34

If you have not heard, perhaps you are not listening. eom guillaumeb Nov 2017 #37

Those who claim to have heard have likely misunderstood. Orrex Nov 2017 #52

But if they actually misunderstood, guillaumeb Nov 2017 #59

No, not at all Orrex Nov 2017 #60

From whom did they hear it? eom guillaumeb Nov 2017 #61

Honestly, that's a silly question with two obvious answers Orrex Nov 2017 #62

Obvious is your opinion. eom guillaumeb Nov 2017 #63

And "It's God" is your imagination Orrex Nov 2017 #64

So you have heard voices? Lordquinton Nov 2017 #73

Inspiration. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #80

So you had an idea Lordquinton Nov 2017 #90

G_D, my Main Man, desires to 'speak to' /communicate with His Creation sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #105

I've never seen or talked to a water buffalo. Nevertheless, I believe they exist. TomSlick Nov 2017 #39

Quartz007 didn't say a god doesn't exist. Mariana Nov 2017 #44

There is plenty of evidence that water buffaloes exist. Voltaire2 Nov 2017 #45

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Your analogy was full of fail Voltaire2 Nov 2017 #138

I'm only certain that there isn't any evidence of gods. Mariana Nov 2017 #140

Thank you for your wisdom. cornball 24 Nov 2017 #133

Not a proof rlegro Nov 2017 #51

I think this gif True Dough Nov 2017 #38

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That evokes this image True Dough Nov 2017 #48

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ still_one Nov 2017 #55

God's a black hole? Nitram Nov 2017 #43

No. A singularity. MineralMan Nov 2017 #47

The ORIGINAL singularity. Nitram Nov 2017 #56

No. I'm asking a question. What if? MineralMan Nov 2017 #65

You can look at my questions as commentary if you wish. Nitram Nov 2017 #67

Great example of explaining your meaning Lordquinton Nov 2017 #74

I try to use explanations when there is misunderstanding. MineralMan Nov 2017 #76

Pick at it Lordquinton Nov 2017 #88

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Mindwalk mia Nov 2017 #77

Then it wasn't God. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2017 #82

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Psssst.... Cary Nov 2017 #128

I am reminded of a pulp SF story I read some 60 years ago... Jack-o-Lantern Nov 2017 #156