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guillaumeb

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40. No, all incorrect.

Fri Dec 8, 2017, 03:59 PM

Dec 2017

I was speaking of theism versus atheism. And speaking of belief strictly in that sense. Either the responder misunderstood or had another point.

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"Theism" means belief in a deity or deities. [View all] MineralMan Dec 2017 OP

Still hedging your bet? yallerdawg Dec 2017 #1

No. I'm not even betting. MineralMan Dec 2017 #4

+100 Sneederbunk Dec 2017 #5

Atheists aren't hedging bets Lordquinton Dec 2017 #7

Win/win. yallerdawg Dec 2017 #9

What if it turns out Allah sends you to hell for being a Christian? marylandblue Dec 2017 #10

What is this fixation on hell? yallerdawg Dec 2017 #11

But some see them as a threat. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #13

Yes, telling someone they will burn in hell is a threat Lordquinton Dec 2017 #20

Read the Quran, plenty of threats in there marylandblue Dec 2017 #14

Nice Dodge there Lordquinton Dec 2017 #19

Do you mean God the all merciful? guillaumeb Dec 2017 #12

You sure think highly of your beliefs Lordquinton Dec 2017 #18

Do you think highly of your beliefs? guillaumeb Dec 2017 #21

Holy non-sequiturs batman! Lordquinton Dec 2017 #22

Does this represent your belief? guillaumeb Dec 2017 #24

Where do you get that idea? Lordquinton Dec 2017 #25

But you presumably did post it. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #26

Ok, if you're not following the thread Lordquinton Dec 2017 #27

I understand. eom guillaumeb Dec 2017 #28

Badly vs what? saidsimplesimon Dec 2017 #29

Sometimes the revelation is an interior one. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #30

That is very convenient Lordquinton Dec 2017 #31

No, it is a position that I cannot prove. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #35

So if understand correctly, you think no belief can ever be proved? marylandblue Dec 2017 #36

Why did you reframe what I actually said? eom guillaumeb Dec 2017 #37

Kinda right Lordquinton Dec 2017 #39

No, all incorrect. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #40

You were speaking of unprovable beliefs Lordquinton Dec 2017 #41

Why is theism vs. atheism marylandblue Dec 2017 #46

I am not trying to reframe marylandblue Dec 2017 #44

I do not doubt you. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #51

If you believe a thing that can't be proven marylandblue Dec 2017 #53

Shall we create a new dictionary? guillaumeb Dec 2017 #54

We argue about it all the time here marylandblue Dec 2017 #55

Do you believe in democracy, or fairness? guillaumeb Dec 2017 #56

Yes, belief can be used in different ways marylandblue Dec 2017 #57

I agree with your thinking on "believe in democracy". guillaumeb Dec 2017 #58

Is there anything else you believe that can't be proven? marylandblue Dec 2017 #59

Probably many things. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #60

But we know that French exists marylandblue Dec 2017 #61

My actual belief regards the language and which language is better for poetry guillaumeb Dec 2017 #62

But aren't you switching senses of the word "belief?" marylandblue Dec 2017 #63

I believe what I said about the superiority. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #64

Alright, suppose I told you that marylandblue Dec 2017 #66

Not at all equivalent. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #67

But if believe that French is a better language marylandblue Dec 2017 #68

1. something believed; an opinion or conviction: guillaumeb Dec 2017 #69

I am confused marylandblue Dec 2017 #70

Proposition A is unprovable. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #71

Then why can't I say Prestigish is superior to French? marylandblue Dec 2017 #72

You could if you wish. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #73

In this case, your knowledge of French is synonymous with your belief in French marylandblue Dec 2017 #74

I grew up speaking French. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #77

There is a difference between existence and opinion marylandblue Dec 2017 #78

Yes, there are other things that I believe that I cannot prove exist. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #79

"Rap is not really music" is a belief in an attribute of Rap marylandblue Dec 2017 #80

I have heard rap, and I admit that it clearly exists. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #81

Right, so aside from God marylandblue Dec 2017 #82

Simple nouns? guillaumeb Dec 2017 #83

Yes. marylandblue Dec 2017 #84

We use the same word: guillaumeb Dec 2017 #85

Yes, but that generally is a noun marylandblue Dec 2017 #86

"Evidence" meaning shared experience? guillaumeb Dec 2017 #87

What do you mean by "shared experience?" marylandblue Dec 2017 #88

No I don't Lordquinton Dec 2017 #38

And all those edhopper Dec 2017 #42

I know it isn't newsworthy... yallerdawg Dec 2017 #43

You asked what is wrong with believing edhopper Dec 2017 #45

"Where and when?" yallerdawg Dec 2017 #47

With out edhopper Dec 2017 #48

Quiet, unrecognized acts of charity, aid, outreach and love... yallerdawg Dec 2017 #49

And this is because of God? edhopper Dec 2017 #50

This is an old story, edhopper. Mariana Dec 2017 #75

Good points edhopper Dec 2017 #76

Fellow atheist here DangerousUrNot Dec 2017 #2

Yeah. Someone claimed that in another thread. MineralMan Dec 2017 #3

And they wonder why they get called out all the time Lordquinton Dec 2017 #23

Atheism / nihilism Lordquinton Dec 2017 #6

That's one way to look at it. MineralMan Dec 2017 #8

Everything is from our own perspective Lordquinton Dec 2017 #33

and agnostics fall in-between Angry Dragon Dec 2017 #15

We are sort of like independent voters marylandblue Dec 2017 #16

No, they don't. trotsky Dec 2017 #32

And yet so many theists struggle with it Pope George Ringo II Dec 2017 #17

Well, I posted my definition. And like clockwork, MineralMan Dec 2017 #34

Okay, ow do you explain the tides, then? Permanut Dec 2017 #52

Lots of people are church members for similar reasons. MineralMan Dec 2017 #65