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MineralMan

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21. Well, see, governments and societies are generally intolerant

Wed Dec 20, 2017, 12:15 PM

Dec 2017

of anything that isn't the norm. In China, government is intolerant of Muslims. In the USA, government is intolerant of Muslims. It appears that the "religion" of a government has little to do with such intolerance, really. Nations that are intolerant make me uncomfortable.

Christians are forever saying that the USA is a "Christian Country." China is openly a non-religious country. Call it an "atheist" country if you like. Both mistreat Muslim immigrants and, often, citizens.

Tell me what is the difference, Guy. Personally, I don't treat Muslims any differently than anyone else. I'm an atheist. I'm not a nation, though.

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Chinese Muslims shackled by police state, high-tech surveillance [View all] guillaumeb Dec 2017 OP

China regulates religion, it does not forbid it. Voltaire2 Dec 2017 #1

An officially atheist, secular state. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #2

Do you know anyone who is Chinese, MineralMan Dec 2017 #3

So your one personal story outweighs this one? guillaumeb Dec 2017 #14

No answer to my question? Just another question? MineralMan Dec 2017 #15

No. I assume that you intended your comment guillaumeb Dec 2017 #19

He didn't make a comment, he asked you two questions. Mariana Dec 2017 #31

It is obvious what was intended. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #33

That is utter nonsense. Voltaire2 Dec 2017 #5

So you too are an expert on China? guillaumeb Dec 2017 #16

Nice deflection. Voltaire2 Dec 2017 #32

An officially atheist state. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #34

Yes it is officially atheist. Voltaire2 Dec 2017 #35

The point is intolerance. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #36

Being dense is not attractive. Voltaire2 Dec 2017 #38

It all stopped officially. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #39

Yes it is a totalitarian state that falls short on human rights and yes it deals harshly with Voltaire2 Dec 2017 #42

Sounds like non US-born Muslims are treated here, in the USA. MineralMan Dec 2017 #18

It does. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #20

Well, see, governments and societies are generally intolerant MineralMan Dec 2017 #21

So intolerance is a human attribute related to tribalism? guillaumeb Dec 2017 #23

In Matthew chapter 10, Jesus said: Mariana Dec 2017 #41

The sword metaphor is a common one, guillaumeb Dec 2017 #44

Actually, I didn't mention the sword reference at all. Mariana Dec 2017 #47

From your own actual response: guillaumeb Dec 2017 #48

I apologize, I did not mean to include that. Mariana Dec 2017 #49

If it was meant literally, yes. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #50

You're clearly very familiar with the ongoing Uyghur separatist movement in Xinjiang. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2017 #4

There are points to be scored for his "side," AoR. trotsky Dec 2017 #6

Atheists treating Muslims badly because Atheists gonna Atheist is certainly more exciting than... Act_of_Reparation Dec 2017 #7

Atheocracy! trotsky Dec 2017 #8

Antibarbocracy! Act_of_Reparation Dec 2017 #9

Wouldn't an antibarbocracy be rule without barbers? marylandblue Dec 2017 #12

So now you are concerned about nuance? guillaumeb Dec 2017 #17

So, what do you think? Act_of_Reparation Dec 2017 #22

The Chinese Government attempts to frame the Uighur movement guillaumeb Dec 2017 #24

Yes, they do. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2017 #30

LOL trotsky Dec 2017 #25

Well, I do pay attention here. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #26

Perhaps I do, perhaps I don't. trotsky Dec 2017 #27

I am looking for the nuance. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #28

I'm pretty sure you'd miss it even if it smacked you right in the nose. n/t trotsky Dec 2017 #29

Oh whoops! Lordquinton Dec 2017 #10

Maybe he lives under a tyrannical ichthocracy... Act_of_Reparation Dec 2017 #11

Some people are into that Lordquinton Dec 2017 #13

If one were to read the entire article, guillaumeb Dec 2017 #37

But I can't read, remember? Act_of_Reparation Dec 2017 #40

I presented a taste of the article. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #43

You sound like a used car salesman. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2017 #45

I avoided any reference to reading. eom guillaumeb Dec 2017 #46