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NeoGreen

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36. False binary choice...
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 09:13 AM
Dec 2017

Last edited Fri Dec 22, 2017, 11:36 AM - Edit history (1)

...the premise of the question is flawed.

It isn't derived from one or the other of the two choices presented.

Human Morality does not require religion. Generic morality does not require religion or humans. Religion does not necessarily mitigate "evil instincts" (however defined), and often acts as a catalyst to perpetuate them or make them worse. The so called "good aspects" of religion are a mere patina as cover.


Man is 200,000 years old, however, Hinduism, which is recognised as the world’s oldest living religion, began to emerge a mere 5,000 years ago. Judaism dawned in the 2nd Century BCE. Logically then men existed for approximately 195,000 years before any religions that we can recognise as religions today were established.


So what?
This only tells us that whatever religion(s)/moral constructs preceded the last 5000 years didn't survive to now.
Maybe the maximum life span of any particular religion is in the neighborhood of 5000 years?

I would postulate that it would be beneficial, for humanity as a whole, to understand this dynamic in the hopes of reducing that lifespan.

There's a good quote somewhere that speaks about the entrails of the last priest, or something...

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Let's just change the name of this group to "I don't like religious people" shenmue Dec 2017 #1
It IS the unofficial name. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #2
Or, 'Who Invited All These Stinky God-Believers Here.'😆 sprinkleeninow Dec 2017 #3
Has anyone been rude or disrespectful to you in this group? nt. Mariana Dec 2017 #9
I can't recall. eom sprinkleeninow Dec 2017 #14
but pretending that people have is lots of fun? Voltaire2 Dec 2017 #16
See. One cannot 'win'. (no text) sprinkleeninow Dec 2017 #18
Not personally. Not 'rude' or 'disrespectful' to me personally. sprinkleeninow Dec 2017 #17
It is a constant feature here. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #20
It's called the "Religion Group," not the "Religious Group." MineralMan Dec 2017 #4
Why didja respond to my comment. I piggybacked on the first one sprinkleeninow Dec 2017 #15
I didn't. My reply was to shenmue. MineralMan Dec 2017 #25
Too right. My spectacular Android phone showed the bars going upppp, and appeared to land on mine. sprinkleeninow Dec 2017 #31
We have one. EvilAL Dec 2017 #33
there are protected groups for those with allergies to robust discussions of religion. Voltaire2 Dec 2017 #6
So what exactly is one expected to and not be 'out of order' so to speak sprinkleeninow Dec 2017 #19
See "about this forum". Voltaire2 Dec 2017 #27
Wow. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2017 #12
There is nothing whatsoever in that post that suggests Mariana Dec 2017 #23
Um, there are protected religious groups on DU Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2017 #38
The OP was hardly random Pope George Ringo II Dec 2017 #39
I'm sorry that your thread was taken over by people who MineralMan Dec 2017 #5
Expanding on that... trotsky Dec 2017 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2017 #24
The ethics promulgated by many religious institutions are frequently dubious. Voltaire2 Dec 2017 #7
I think the religions of various cultures were probably MineralMan Dec 2017 #8
The religions have moved on.. a little... and often kicking and screaming TlalocW Dec 2017 #10
Social mores play a greater role than religion. procon Dec 2017 #13
Can there be morality without intelligence? guillaumeb Dec 2017 #21
Oh now it is "an impulse to religion". Voltaire2 Dec 2017 #28
It is a different way of describing it. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #29
Yeah because your original framing was nonsense. Voltaire2 Dec 2017 #32
No, it's a completely different claim. trotsky Dec 2017 #37
Again, you misunderstand. eom guillaumeb Dec 2017 #40
Sure thing, g. trotsky Dec 2017 #41
We survived for at tens of thousands of years without religion. EvilAL Dec 2017 #35
I've been called out in that I 'hi-jacked' a thread around here somewhere sprinkleeninow Dec 2017 #22
I was wondering if someone would note that. I didn't expect it. pangaia Dec 2017 #26
Ethics begat morality tirebiter Dec 2017 #30
Society gives us our morals. EvilAL Dec 2017 #34
False binary choice... NeoGreen Dec 2017 #36
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