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MineralMan

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2. Yes. Those truths are pretty much universal

Mon Jan 1, 2018, 12:38 PM

Jan 2018

in all cultures, really, except, perhaps the one about golden calves and other idols.

They're not unique to any particular religion, but are standards developed by humans interacting with each other. They're based on evidence of what works best.

Whatever your religion or cultural background, you're likely to have all of those rules in place.

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Can an Iron Age Religion Survive Internet Age Technology? [View all] MineralMan Jan 2018 OP

There ARE some basic truths taught there if you strip away the mythology. shraby Jan 2018 #1

Yes. Those truths are pretty much universal MineralMan Jan 2018 #2

Those are good lessons PJMcK Jan 2018 #3

Exactly, which is why they are universally known everywhere. MineralMan Jan 2018 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author Cary Jan 2018 #29

There are some really shitty morals taught there too. Voltaire2 Jan 2018 #14

Those truths exist with or without religion. (n/t) Iggo Jan 2018 #21

All ideas older than religions. AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #44

Islam seems to be thriving - and growing. yallerdawg Jan 2018 #4

And yet, the number of "nones" keeps rising. MineralMan Jan 2018 #6

Atheism seems to do well under certain social conditions marylandblue Jan 2018 #13

There are atheists everywhere, even in churches. MineralMan Jan 2018 #17

It seems like the younger generation is not doing this marylandblue Jan 2018 #19

It does seem that way, MineralMan Jan 2018 #36

Not faster than anything else, actually. AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #45

Will this fact have any impact on YOUR belief? Probably not. yallerdawg Jan 2018 #47

There are a number of problems with that data. AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #48

No impact. yallerdawg Jan 2018 #49

No, I offered you counter-sources with hard data. Can't you tell the difference? AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #50

"Shoot the messenger." yallerdawg Jan 2018 #51

Nietzsche lamented marylandblue Jan 2018 #5

Nietzsche. One of my favorite memories MineralMan Jan 2018 #9

You are quite the subversive marylandblue Jan 2018 #11

I try my best. MineralMan Jan 2018 #12

I had to give up my copy of Catch-22 in basic... NeoGreen Jan 2018 #83

The "miracles" described in the Bible were not miracles, of course. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #8

Thanks. I take it for what it is. MineralMan Jan 2018 #10

hmmm well as far as philosophy and ethics goes the stuff the Greeks did is far better and more Voltaire2 Jan 2018 #15

The question isn't whether the Greeks were "better" at philosophy, The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #16

But wouldn't it be better to go to the originals? Pope George Ringo II Jan 2018 #18

The Epic of Gilgamesh isn't the "original." The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #23

Well, Ziusudra appears to be as close to an original as we can find on a flood myth. Pope George Ringo II Jan 2018 #25

even still this concerns the history of literature, not philosophy. Voltaire2 Jan 2018 #27

They stole conflicting philosophies and then edited it poorly so it makes no sense whatsoever. Pope George Ringo II Jan 2018 #30

"Literary merit" depends a lot on the quality of translations, of which there have been many. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #35

I guess we can talk about translations, scholars, and historians. Pope George Ringo II Jan 2018 #39

no need for me to respond. Voltaire2 Jan 2018 #24

religion is where the priest/royalty class subjugate the population and enrich themselves msongs Jan 2018 #20

And Jesus loves you. But he will Fuck. You. Up. Iggo Jan 2018 #22

Yes. guillaumeb Jan 2018 #26

which wisdom provided uniquely by your religion is timeless? Voltaire2 Jan 2018 #28

The question was posed can an iron age religion...etc. guillaumeb Jan 2018 #32

once again, no answer. Voltaire2 Jan 2018 #33

What you mean is that my answer does not conform guillaumeb Jan 2018 #34

No narratives or any of your other bullshit memes. trotsky Jan 2018 #55

It was not a question. guillaumeb Jan 2018 #64

Then I'll ask the question. trotsky Jan 2018 #66

The wisdom to recognize that this question is an argument guillaumeb Jan 2018 #67

Uh huh. trotsky Jan 2018 #79

Thank you for restating my original statement MineralMan Jan 2018 #37

Timeless my ass. When is the last time you read the bible cover to cover? AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #46

Again., you insist on literalism Cary Jan 2018 #31

I watched the Joseph Campbell broadcasts MineralMan Jan 2018 #38

I think (meant to be constructive criticism)... Cary Jan 2018 #40

No, I do not look at it too literally. MineralMan Jan 2018 #41

An intersting anecdote TlalocW Jan 2018 #42

Yes. Very interesting, and pertinent to MineralMan Jan 2018 #43

I believe it will have to evolve... HopeAgain Jan 2018 #52

Secular Humanism requires no such evolutionary development MineralMan Jan 2018 #53

I do believe that the human mind is not purely rational HopeAgain Jan 2018 #54

The human mind is a complicated thing. MineralMan Jan 2018 #62

I understand what you are saying HopeAgain Jan 2018 #63

"Jesus said nothing that can't be interpreted consistently with modern science" trotsky Jan 2018 #58

I don't believe you read my post fully HopeAgain Jan 2018 #59

Oh I did. trotsky Jan 2018 #60

I was referring to the Q source.. HopeAgain Jan 2018 #61

So you don't have an answer to my question. trotsky Jan 2018 #65

I know HopeAgain Jan 2018 #68

The argument I'm making is the key to the problem with religion. trotsky Jan 2018 #69

I thought the OPs provided context to the discussions on here. HopeAgain Jan 2018 #70

Wow thanks for that snide remark. trotsky Jan 2018 #71

The discussion thread is about whether religion will survive in the technological era... HopeAgain Jan 2018 #74

Why do you need to state falsehoods? trotsky Jan 2018 #75

I don't know why your last question is so difficult for people to answer. MineralMan Jan 2018 #76

Yeah but I think we DO know why it's so difficult. trotsky Jan 2018 #77

Thanks for completely mischaracterizing what I said... HopeAgain Jan 2018 #82

BHWAH HA HA HA trotsky Jan 2018 #85

I think I answered that above (#52). HopeAgain Jan 2018 #78

You're trying desperately to shift the argument, but it's not working. trotsky Jan 2018 #80

I am not the one shifting the "argument" HopeAgain Jan 2018 #81

Well yes, you did. trotsky Jan 2018 #84

I think it's not so much the technology itself, trotsky Jan 2018 #56

Yes, exactly. The increased ability the Internet age gives us to MineralMan Jan 2018 #57

Yes, it most certainly can. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2018 #72

Ah, discernment. Always a touchy issue. MineralMan Jan 2018 #73