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In reply to the discussion: New York Cardinal Timothy Dolan denounces Obama gay marriage stance [View all]E_Pluribus_Unitarian
(178 posts)12. Wonder if Cardinal Dolan would like to explain this?
When Same-Sex Marriage Was a Christian Rite
Contrary to myth, Christianity's concept of marriage has not been set in stone since the days of Christ, but has constantly evolved as a concept and ritual. Prof. John Boswell, the late Chairman of Yale Universitys history department, discovered that in addition to heterosexual marriage ceremonies in ancient Christian church liturgical documents, there were also ceremonies called the "Office of Same-Sex Union" (10th and 11th century), and the "Order for Uniting Two Men" (11th and 12th century).
These church rites had all the symbols of a heterosexual marriage: the whole community gathered in a church, a blessing of the couple before the altar was conducted with their right hands joined, holy vows were exchanged, a priest officiatied in the taking of the Eucharist and a wedding feast for the guests was celebrated afterwards. These elements all appear in contemporary illustrations of the holy union of the Byzantine Warrior-Emperor, Basil the First (867-886 CE) and his companion John....
http://anthropologist.livejournal.com/1314574.html
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A man married to a male Bronze Age Canaanite deity doesn't have much room to talk.
tanyev
May 2012
#8
Any sex, straight, gay, or solo, outside a sacramental marriage is also "deeply saddening".
rug
May 2012
#9
Your church automatically recognizes certain non-Catholic marriages to be sacramental...
trotsky
May 2012
#24
Yes, as I stated earler, baptized nonCatholics can have a sacramental marriage in the eyes of the RC
rug
May 2012
#27
Any sex, straight, gay, or solo, outside a sacramental marriage is also "deeply saddening".
AlbertCat
May 2012
#48
who pays this fuckers salary? oh yeah, its tithe paying catholics in his archdiocese.
Humanist_Activist
May 2012
#26
really? So the mailer my parents get from St. Cletus parish begging for money every...
Humanist_Activist
May 2012
#31
Parish still calls it that, perhaps I should call it financial support or whatever.
Humanist_Activist
May 2012
#34
Do you get to choose if your money goes to support discrimination or not?
Humanist_Activist
May 2012
#36
To a limited extent, less limited than my ability to keep my money awat from predator drones.
rug
May 2012
#40
So when your archdiocese supports an initiative to ban marriage equality somewhere...
Humanist_Activist
May 2012
#45
How does it feel to materially support predator drones dropping on Afghan villages?
rug
May 2012
#47
So you actually believe the mythologies and beliefs that were created to build up the church?
Humanist_Activist
May 2012
#69
When an organization opposes same sex marriage on nothing more than the Bible, they are a hate...
Humanist_Activist
May 2012
#82
I see. The Church that Biden and a billion others belongs to is "on the same moral level as the KKK"
rug
May 2012
#83
Actually I'm condemning their actions, if you can't tell the difference, I can't help you...
Humanist_Activist
May 2012
#86