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53. Oh by all means demonstrate where the majority of atheists on DU engage in discussion more than ins

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 10:17 AM

Jan 2018

I am agnostic and do not generally engage in debates about any particular religion or benefits of faith. Yet there are daily occurrences of posters calling religious beliefs fairy tales and dismissing others when they objects. Quite frankly the behavior of some atheist posters is reminiscent of fundamentalist types. Both proclaim their superiority and treat the other with contempt. Why are they similar oh yeah...

People build communities. Communities of like ideas (DU) and defend those communities and ideas from others who do not agree (Conservatives). Religion is an aspect of this. Monotheism is an aspect of this. Atheism is not exempt. Atheists are human after all and humans get together to build communities of like ideas. Sometimes those ideas are incorrect conflict of those believed by other communities which leads me to another wonderful aspect of humanity...

our absolute love, and I do mean love as in it is the core of our being, othering those who are different.

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Why are discussions about religious beliefs always so adversarial? [View all] MineralMan Dec 2017 OP

They are not adversarial and youre going to hell for even thinking that! unblock Dec 2017 #1

Yah...hell...nah... MineralMan Dec 2017 #3

Because they are so wrong Achilleaze Dec 2017 #2

LOL! MineralMan Dec 2017 #4

Monotheism is a big part of the problem Pope George Ringo II Dec 2017 #5

I don't trust Alexa one bit. MineralMan Dec 2017 #6

Hey Siri, tell Google to ask Alexa to turn up the Thermosat. AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #41

Does that even work? MineralMan Jan 2018 #44

Everyone knows the coffee maker is god. hunter Dec 2017 #10

Instead of coffee, I'll take tea my dear Pope George Ringo II Dec 2017 #18

Ohhh, that's the best description of religion PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2017 #11

Because some from both camps prefer name calling to dialogue. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #7

Let me check with the "choir" on that... MineralMan Dec 2017 #8

Alto-gether now. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #9

Pathetic deflection. AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #43

Oh by all means demonstrate where the majority of atheists on DU engage in discussion more than ins tymorial Jan 2018 #53

The back and forth in this folder is ongoing and has been for some time. AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #60

If you think it's 'bad' for religion in here, go have a gander at General Discussion. We're nice. AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #63

and there it is, another example of the "atheists badz" trope. Voltaire2 Dec 2017 #14

Wrong, again. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #15

Some or all is not the question marylandblue Dec 2017 #16

And that is a very good question. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #17

Still, that avoids the issues marylandblue Dec 2017 #19

Why have European countries fought fir hundreds of years? guillaumeb Dec 2017 #20

Power and money are obvious motivators marylandblue Dec 2017 #24

Why are people so easy to manipulate? guillaumeb Dec 2017 #25

Why do you make it into a question I didn't ask? marylandblue Dec 2017 #28

Your ending: guillaumeb Dec 2017 #29

OVER THAT ONE (i.e. religion?) It was clear what I was referring to marylandblue Dec 2017 #31

Every belief system is used as a tool to manipulate. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #32

Nobody ever went to war over whether cats are better than dogs marylandblue Dec 2017 #33

No, but millions went to war to defend their countries. guillaumeb Jan 2018 #34

Point is, not EVERY belief system can be used for manipulation marylandblue Jan 2018 #35

Feel free to name one that cannot. guillaumeb Jan 2018 #36

You made it clear you thought the problem was the atheists Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2018 #37

No, you misframed, or misunderstood. guillaumeb Jan 2018 #38

Nobody misframed or misunderstood. trotsky Jan 2018 #40

"And my own view is that, speaking strictly of DU, one camp prefers invective to dialogue." Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2018 #45

Read the many responses. guillaumeb Jan 2018 #46

OK, so your argument that you AREN'T saying atheist are bad guys Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2018 #47

So atheists can define theism, as is evident from many posts here, guillaumeb Jan 2018 #48

Not theists Lordquinton Jan 2018 #49

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!! guillaumeb Jan 2018 #62

You just make it up as you go along Lordquinton Jan 2018 #64

Nice diversion from the point about you using the atheists bad trope. Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2018 #50

Additionally, the point I am making is that you define it poorly, Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2018 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author PragmaticDem Dec 2017 #27

LOLOLOL trotsky Jan 2018 #39

There were, up until recently, two camps. AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #42

Basically because most people think in their heart of hearts that their PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2017 #12

Because you are talking about deeply held views. PragmaticDem Dec 2017 #13

Some religions teach outright that everyone who worships a different god Mariana Dec 2017 #21

There was a hubbub a few years ago when Ratzinger said he thought his religion was the best. Pope George Ringo II Dec 2017 #22

It's just foolish to get upset about that. Mariana Dec 2017 #23

IMO religions are often authoritative and fraught with legends and seldom introspective at least RKP5637 Dec 2017 #26

Because it's easy to shoot holes in any religious belief. rickford66 Dec 2017 #30

For the same reasons discussions about white or male privilege are likewise adversarial. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2018 #52

Intolerance of religions among the so-called religious. democratisphere Jan 2018 #54

Said no Commandment ever. MineralMan Jan 2018 #55

That was the eleventh commandment that was never published. democratisphere Jan 2018 #56

... Mariana Jan 2018 #65

Like I was saying. democratisphere Jan 2018 #66

My theory on this very question is that WhiteTara Jan 2018 #57

That theory has spread far and wide. MineralMan Jan 2018 #58

Yes. I agree and it is so sad because WhiteTara Jan 2018 #59

I assume you're talking about Hel. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2018 #61