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Pope George Ringo II

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33. This is basically the argument that lung cancer is fine because people die from other things too.

Sat Jan 6, 2018, 06:29 PM

Jan 2018

If something is a source of death and misery, like religion or lung cancer, we should do what we can to minimize its impact on human beings. Other sources of pain and suffering are their own topic.

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Do some religions prime us for war and violence [View all] mia Jan 2018 OP

I believe almost every religion has a war on or against something or someone. democratisphere Jan 2018 #1

I think it's a feeling of primacy. MineralMan Jan 2018 #2

the people they are displacing or killing are lesser people, or even "not real" people mitch96 Jan 2018 #5

Exactly. Look at India and the other colonies of various nations. MineralMan Jan 2018 #6

Gott mit uns..? mitch96 Jan 2018 #7

The first time I heard "Deus lo vult" mitch96 Jan 2018 #3

Religion and Nationalism and the Two Primary Causes of All Wars dlk Jan 2018 #4

Some, not all sects. safeinOhio Jan 2018 #8

People will use many belief systems as an excuse for violence. guillaumeb Jan 2018 #9

Patriotism is not a religion. MineralMan Jan 2018 #10

It is, if one recognizes it. guillaumeb Jan 2018 #11

You don't get to make up your own definitions of MineralMan Jan 2018 #12

Google "civil religion" and see what you find. guillaumeb Jan 2018 #13

It's a fairly common metaphorical extension. Igel Jan 2018 #14

It is his equivocation strategy. Voltaire2 Jan 2018 #20

Yes, well, I'm limiting my interactions MineralMan Jan 2018 #21

No, they won't. trotsky Jan 2018 #15

Inconvenient, that. MineralMan Jan 2018 #16

Depends on the buddhist Lordquinton Jan 2018 #17

Yes, well, it always does, doesn't it? MineralMan Jan 2018 #22

There's a tendency to project that somehow Asian religions Lordquinton Jan 2018 #24

Is this ethnic or religiois violence? marylandblue Jan 2018 #46

Marvelous observation. I will edit to say "many". guillaumeb Jan 2018 #19

There's more. trotsky Jan 2018 #54

+1... tribalism....nt 2naSalit Jan 2018 #53

Some definitely do, some don't have to shoulder that blame nearly to the extent as others Pope George Ringo II Jan 2018 #18

Religion is a means of organizing society towards a set of goals. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2018 #23

Unfortunately the answer is yes. PragmaticDem Jan 2018 #25

Then again I think of the USSR, Red China, etc. Sneederbunk Jan 2018 #26

"Red" China? how quaint. Voltaire2 Jan 2018 #27

The USSR is no more. MineralMan Jan 2018 #28

I understand your point but I would still say religion has caused more wars, or it would be fair... PragmaticDem Jan 2018 #29

Thank you. Neither the religious nor non-religious have clean hands. Sneederbunk Jan 2018 #30

War is a very human thing and even if religion went away there would still PragmaticDem Jan 2018 #31

did anyone claim the non-religious have "clean hands"? Voltaire2 Jan 2018 #32

No but the poster was making a point. PragmaticDem Jan 2018 #34

well the poster still hasn't elucidated the point the poster was making Voltaire2 Jan 2018 #49

Oh ok. PragmaticDem Jan 2018 #51

This is basically the argument that lung cancer is fine because people die from other things too. Pope George Ringo II Jan 2018 #33

So we should give up our beliefs because there have been wars? PragmaticDem Jan 2018 #35

Of course not. You should give up your beliefs because religion directly causes mass murders. Pope George Ringo II Jan 2018 #36

Maybe I am reading this wrong but you are arguing I should give up my faith because others PragmaticDem Jan 2018 #37

Obvious answer? Pope George Ringo II Jan 2018 #38

Yes I did ask! PragmaticDem Jan 2018 #39

It happened again. Pope George Ringo II Jan 2018 #40

I am sorry but I never told you my religious beliefs so you don't know what I think. PragmaticDem Jan 2018 #41

Well, you said you had faith and didn't want to give it up. Pope George Ringo II Jan 2018 #42

You seem confused. PragmaticDem Jan 2018 #43

It's only reasonable Pope George Ringo II Jan 2018 #44

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you are now a badz atheists, a choir, a harmonium. Voltaire2 Jan 2018 #48

Do you give out medals? PragmaticDem Jan 2018 #52

Some of the comments here seem to miss the point of the article marylandblue Jan 2018 #47

everything in this forum is theism vs atheism Voltaire2 Jan 2018 #50