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3catwoman3

(30,355 posts)
58. Another UU here.
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 05:59 PM
Jan 2018

I usually think of myself as a happily questioning agnostic. It seems I was a questioner from early one - one of my mother's favorite stories about me, soemwhere between age 5-7, was the time I asked her if we could please say "Ah-ladies" at the end of bedtime prayers rather than "A-men."

I was raised casually Presbyterian, and always felt that my parents took us to church becuase they thought they ought to (it was the 1950s), an not because faith had any major meaning in their lives. We didn't discuss religion at home, and we didn't read "the" Bible together.

In high school, i beonged to a Young Life group for a couple of years, more for the socail aspects than the spiritual, as I look back. I don't thinnk it was as fundamentalist then as it is now. Altho, at that time, I bought into the accepting JC as your savior thing, I was never entirely comfortable with it, and didn't feel like I was fully committed, becuase I could NOT make myself do the whole witnessing thing to try to persuade others to accept that idea. Just plain could not.

Nor could I get comfortable with the idea that anyoone who had not accepted Jesus was going to hell. That whole, "No one gets to the Father except by me," thing. Were that "except by me" idea to be true, it's one thing if someone has heard the salvation message and chooses not to accept it - a choice has been made. It would be entirely something else for someone to be denied whatever salvation there might be becuase they never had a chance to hear the message. How unfair would THAT be?

Here's my take on the importance of welcoming a variety of spiritual frameworks:

- I'm a mom, and a pediatric nurse practitioner. My sons are now 27 and 25. There were many things I wanted to teach them as they were growing up. If I explained something important to them one way, and they didn't "get it," I would try as many other explanations as it took until I'd made my point. (Not all ot once, of course.)

- As a nurse practitioner, I must do the same thing - if I am trying to explain an illness and a treatment plan to a parent, I'd better have a vareity of ways to do so in case I don't see the light of understanding in the parent's eyes the first time. Failure to make things clear could have a really bad outcome.

Here's something else I am quite firm about. I can believe something "with all my heart," as the saying goes. My belief in something has NO influence about whatever really IS. None of us knows what might be after this existence that we are experencing right now. I'm OK with not knowing. I'm intrigued by the idea of reincarnation. I hope there is life on other planets. Who can prove or disprove that we are not all part of someon else's imagination?

Questioning and specculating is fun and fascinating.

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I believe in aliens, they are coming and soon. Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #1
I fear that I am without any Xbox or other similar devices. MineralMan Jan 2018 #2
I worship at the device by screaming at Microsoft for never having the server working Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #5
Well, I can see how driving that way would be far safer MineralMan Jan 2018 #8
Catholic AND born-again? trotsky Jan 2018 #3
Loooong story, believe it or not my born again experience happened Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #4
Addiction is a monster, absolutely. trotsky Jan 2018 #6
Recovering Catholic, now Unitarian. redstatebluegirl Jan 2018 #7
Unitarian Universalist? MineralMan Jan 2018 #10
Yes, I normally say UU but some don't know what that is. redstatebluegirl Jan 2018 #11
OK. Thanks. That helps me to understand your search. MineralMan Jan 2018 #13
I am also UU cilla4progress Jan 2018 #16
Very inclusive, indeed. MineralMan Jan 2018 #22
Confusing cilla4progress Jan 2018 #27
There are several types of Unitarianism. MineralMan Jan 2018 #28
Yes, cilla4progress Jan 2018 #30
There is also Christian Unitarianism, which is a non-trinitarian Christian MineralMan Jan 2018 #32
Ahh - cilla4progress Jan 2018 #45
I am agnostic more than atheist thbobby Jan 2018 #9
That seems to be a common issue. MineralMan Jan 2018 #12
Trying to be esoteric (difficult for me) thbobby Jan 2018 #17
Well, I see all of that stuff as simply how the universe is. MineralMan Jan 2018 #18
I agree with you thbobby Jan 2018 #21
I think it's possible for anyone to understand the universe on some level. MineralMan Jan 2018 #23
Pagan cilla4progress Jan 2018 #14
Thank you. I hope you'll join some of the discussions with your MineralMan Jan 2018 #15
Thanks, cilla4progress Jan 2018 #19
OK. I can understand that point of view, for sure. MineralMan Jan 2018 #20
I would love to have cilla4progress Jan 2018 #29
While it may seem so, that's probably because my ethical compass MineralMan Jan 2018 #31
I often say that my religion is cilla4progress Jan 2018 #46
Well, we are all affected, anyhow. MineralMan Jan 2018 #47
Defensive cilla4progress Jan 2018 #50
There are religous people who wish others ill, and MineralMan Jan 2018 #52
Because of my benign religious background cilla4progress Jan 2018 #57
Well, there is the fight against LGBTQ rights by MineralMan Jan 2018 #59
Ok, cilla4progress Jan 2018 #60
I would agree. PragmaticDem Jan 2018 #24
We would likely learn all the things religions have in common MineralMan Jan 2018 #54
I am a former christian who converted to Judaism Gothmog Jan 2018 #25
It appears that you have gone back in time. MineralMan Jan 2018 #26
I was agnostic, became Christian, studied Judaism with an eye to convert, and am now Pagan. Still Blue in PDX Jan 2018 #62
We would also benefit from respectful dialogue. eom guillaumeb Jan 2018 #33
Where does any disrespectful dialog appear in this thread? MineralMan Jan 2018 #34
Speaking of the religion group as a whole. guillaumeb Jan 2018 #35
This thread has a theme. If you want to talk about something else, MineralMan Jan 2018 #36
Are there rules for each thread? guillaumeb Jan 2018 #38
See this link for your preferred topic. MineralMan Jan 2018 #41
My comment stands. guillaumeb Jan 2018 #43
.. MineralMan Jan 2018 #44
And that starts with not defining other's beliefs (or lack thereof). trotsky Jan 2018 #37
Sorry, I have been asked to stay on topic. guillaumeb Jan 2018 #40
Here's a thread all pre-made for that argument. MineralMan Jan 2018 #42
Perfect! trotsky Jan 2018 #51
My pleasure. MineralMan Jan 2018 #53
I have created a new thread for the topic you introduced. MineralMan Jan 2018 #39
Royal 'we' again, huh? AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #61
Another misunderstanding? guillaumeb Jan 2018 #64
Unlikely. AtheistCrusader Jan 2018 #67
Raised loosely Episcopalian Lordquinton Jan 2018 #48
Thank you for that insight. MineralMan Jan 2018 #49
Growing up Methodist, drafted into baptism, preached born again... pbmus Jan 2018 #55
We're the same age. It takes a long time to learn everything. MineralMan Jan 2018 #56
Another UU here. 3catwoman3 Jan 2018 #58
Jew edhopper Jan 2018 #63
and again you forget about the agnostics Angry Dragon Jan 2018 #65
No, but I sure wish you'd MineralMan Jan 2018 #66
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