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deucemagnet

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49. Can you see that you're using circular logic?

Thu May 10, 2012, 05:29 PM

May 2012

You believe that the bible is a true historical document because you have faith, and you know that the faith that comes from opening your heart to God is true because the Bible is a historical document.

I'm sure that those cultists, along with many other people from many other religions looked deeply into their hearts, found love and peace, and are just as bone-sure as you are that they are right. They can't all be right. Don't you see that as an indictment of the emotional intangibles that people base faith upon?

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"marriage" and "marriage" aren't synonymous! Liberal Insights May 2012 #10

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here's the problem dmallind May 2012 #19

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They Should! shagsak May 2012 #47

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Who told you that? cbayer May 2012 #25

They are free to make up anything Oddman May 2012 #29

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What does it mean to you to be considered a Christian? cleanhippie May 2012 #37

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How does that differ from those that feel the same about their christianity? cleanhippie May 2012 #43

How we feel about our faith differs very little shagsak May 2012 #51

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My religion is my decision shagsak May 2012 #63

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That is a disrespectful response shagsak May 2012 #23

You've negated the big bang theory? Oddman May 2012 #28

OK shagsak May 2012 #31

Wow, a cut and paste response from any apologists website. cleanhippie May 2012 #38

wow you got me shagsak May 2012 #39

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My beleifs not faith based Oddman May 2012 #33

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No, that was just a response to why I don't believe in the big bang theory shagsak May 2012 #58

By your remark, you don't understand what theory means. Goblinmonger May 2012 #59

I apologize for the misuse of terms shagsak May 2012 #61

May I ask a serious question? deucemagnet May 2012 #46

historical precedence shagsak May 2012 #48

Can you see that you're using circular logic? deucemagnet May 2012 #49

I see your point shagsak May 2012 #52

so it seems that you are claiming the word "marriage" opiate69 May 2012 #57

Bueller??....... Bueller??........ opiate69 May 2012 #66

I am explaining the significance the word marriage has to ME shagsak May 2012 #74

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