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marylandblue

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6. I am an agnostic as well, but physics as an explanation for things

Sat Feb 3, 2018, 11:37 PM

Feb 2018

has defeated God in every battle for the last 300 years. The Big Bang seems to be God's last refuge, and it's not looking good for Him right now.

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You either believe in something or in nothing. Either way you have to have faith [View all] applegrove Feb 2018 OP

This is just a God of the gaps argument marylandblue Feb 2018 #1

Interesting point... Docreed2003 Feb 2018 #3

I'm agnostic. Something had to start time. That something i have faith in. applegrove Feb 2018 #4

I am an agnostic as well, but physics as an explanation for things marylandblue Feb 2018 #6

That is a finite view. safeinOhio Feb 2018 #15

Yup. Pope George Ringo II Feb 2018 #5

No faith necessary. We have data and theories that actually work. longship Feb 2018 #2

Why is the choice between nothing and gods? Voltaire2 Feb 2018 #7

As an agnostic I think a god of some kind created the universe and time. applegrove Feb 2018 #8

Youre welcome to that belief but not to Voltaire2 Feb 2018 #9

Are we going to have the "something created the big bang" "well someting applegrove Feb 2018 #11

Sure. Voltaire2 Feb 2018 #17

If it's inanimate, what makes it a god? marylandblue Feb 2018 #10

I worship the trees in nature, the drumlins in Nova Scotia and the spirits of my dead ancestors. applegrove Feb 2018 #12

Hint: Dryads don't exist. But worship the trees all you want. longship Feb 2018 #31

Why worship them, as opposed to just loving then? marylandblue Feb 2018 #38

You believe there is, or was, a god of some kind Mariana Feb 2018 #13

Something magic happened. I have faith in that. applegrove Feb 2018 #14

FFS, I love the Harry Potter books. longship Feb 2018 #32

Perhaps not in your universe. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #44

Oh and you arent an agnostic in the standard Voltaire2 Feb 2018 #18

In a Universe where edhopper Feb 2018 #16

This fails as a false dilemma fallacy. J_William_Ryan Feb 2018 #19

I'm talking about the miracle of the universe. The miracle of time. applegrove Feb 2018 #20

You're going to double and triple down on your strawman, then? Pope George Ringo II Feb 2018 #21

So what do atheists believe in? What gives them faith in what none of us know applegrove Feb 2018 #22

Reasonably put, so I do thank you for that Pope George Ringo II Feb 2018 #23

Thanks for explaining. See we do get along. applegrove Feb 2018 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author Pope George Ringo II Feb 2018 #25

I'm an atheist, and I have no idea how the universe came to be. Mariana Feb 2018 #34

This sounds more like the agnostic position. eom guillaumeb Feb 2018 #45

I'm an atheist. Mariana Feb 2018 #47

"Maybe a god did it." guillaumeb Feb 2018 #54

Well, maybe a god did it. Mariana Feb 2018 #55

See now this here is a teachable moment. trotsky Feb 2018 #57

The word "miracle." I do not think it means what you think it means. MineralMan Feb 2018 #36

I do not believe in god, but nor do I believe in the non-existence of "god". Binkie The Clown Feb 2018 #26

A miracle. That is God to me. applegrove Feb 2018 #27

what do you mean by "miracle". Binkie The Clown Feb 2018 #28

Everything is part of a miracle. I choose to revere my ancestors and nature. applegrove Feb 2018 #29

If you leave it there you are a pantheist Voltaire2 Feb 2018 #30

So by "miracle" you mean the ordinary things of everday existence. Hmmm. Binkie The Clown Feb 2018 #39

Don't put me in a box of your own making... NeoGreen Feb 2018 #33

I'm just glad baseball fans aren't like this Pope George Ringo II Feb 2018 #40

Nope. The Universe Just Is. MineralMan Feb 2018 #35

Einstein could observe outside of mankind's experience. Lots of thinkers applegrove Feb 2018 #48

It is certainly possible to "imagine" things MineralMan Feb 2018 #50

But you yourself imagine 'no miracle' started it all. applegrove Feb 2018 #58

Nope, that's wrong. trotsky Feb 2018 #59

No miracle is needed. MineralMan Feb 2018 #60

"Why sometimes... edhopper Feb 2018 #61

LOL! MineralMan Feb 2018 #62

God is only one explanation edhopper Feb 2018 #37

Observable facts require no faith Thyla Feb 2018 #41

We put some small amount of "faith" in the assumption that there is an external universe to observe. Voltaire2 Feb 2018 #42

True. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #43

No, what some argue is that what you are using the word "belief" incorrectly. trotsky Feb 2018 #51

I have seen no compelling evidence for the existence of gods. (n/t) Iggo Feb 2018 #46

Well gee wiz. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2018 #49

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Don't know if you've learned anything from this thread, but... trotsky Feb 2018 #53

Yep. Iggo Feb 2018 #56

Wrong. AtheistCrusader Feb 2018 #63