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102. First of all, that is a felony

Sat Feb 10, 2018, 12:21 PM

Feb 2018

secondly, i thought one of the main goals of Christans is to convert others to Christianity. Does the sender really think that will help convert others? Finally, sadly this is sent from my home town.

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In America - Death Threats Against Atheists? [View all] MineralMan Feb 2018 OP

Out of 325 million Americans, guillaumeb Feb 2018 #1

You deny that such things occur? Really? MineralMan Feb 2018 #3

No, I am responding to the overdone suggestion of an underground railroad. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #5

That organization exists. It operates mostly in Muslim Countries. MineralMan Feb 2018 #8

This is really disgusting. trotsky Feb 2018 #12

Perhaps so. I don't know. MineralMan Feb 2018 #15

Nice attempt to build something on your part. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #16

You're wrong. Badly wrong. MineralMan Feb 2018 #18

He really can't help it. trotsky Feb 2018 #20

Uff da! MineralMan Feb 2018 #22

And your unfounded accusations? guillaumeb Feb 2018 #25

Stay on track, gil. trotsky Feb 2018 #27

Weak deflection. Weaker framing. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #30

I sure as hell hope a shit ton of people are reading this. trotsky Feb 2018 #33

Getting weaker. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #38

You can repeat that as much as you want. trotsky Feb 2018 #43

Persistence is not always a virtue. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #45

"Persistence is not always a virtue," he says, trotsky Feb 2018 #48

Well, if you responded to what I actually said, guillaumeb Feb 2018 #51

The thing is, your actual words are SUPPORTING my claim. trotsky Feb 2018 #55

Persistence: guillaumeb Feb 2018 #59

How about EXPLAINING YOURSELF, gil? trotsky Feb 2018 #63

Allow me to make one thing ABSO-FUCKING-LUTELY CLEAR. trotsky Feb 2018 #57

You can vary the wording of your response, guillaumeb Feb 2018 #60

I have read your words. Those words are the ones I object to. trotsky Feb 2018 #62

I already did explain. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #67

No, you did not explain. trotsky Feb 2018 #71

5. No, I am responding to the overdone suggestion of an underground railroad. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #72

And in doing so, are mocking atheists. trotsky Feb 2018 #73

Then you misunderstood. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #74

I see you refuse to clarify or explain. trotsky Feb 2018 #75

1) Read what I wrote. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #76

1) I did. trotsky Feb 2018 #77

you are asking the wrong question ZannaA Feb 2018 #78

That's a very good point, indeed! MineralMan Feb 2018 #79

And that is a tiny subset of Christians. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #80

Even if there's just one, it's still a death threat against an innocent individual. trotsky Feb 2018 #81

And as I responded to MM, any threats should be reported. You could have read that. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #82

Saying they should be reported is one thing. trotsky Feb 2018 #85

Recognizing that these threats come from a tiny subset of theists guillaumeb Feb 2018 #86

NO ONE SAID OTHERWISE. trotsky Feb 2018 #87

You are persistent in your tactics. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #112

Thank you Captain Obvious ZannaA Feb 2018 #101

Over 99% of Americans are not serial killers.. Permanut Feb 2018 #117

I understand you might want to silence other opinions. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #24

Who the fuck cares? Even if it's just one, and that person carries through, trotsky Feb 2018 #28

Weak deflection. Weaker framing. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #32

I agree, that's what you're doing. trotsky Feb 2018 #34

Stop and think about what you are revealing about yourself. MineralMan Feb 2018 #36

Harmony evident. But in the interest of what was actually said: guillaumeb Feb 2018 #40

Sorry. I cannot continue and stay within the DU Rules. MineralMan Feb 2018 #47

Well, it's a good thing it's just some random crazy fuck that made up a book, chapter and verse AtheistCrusader Feb 2018 #89

Yes, a random person. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #90

Because as we have discussed before, I don't believe any of you actually believe in your faith. AtheistCrusader Feb 2018 #172

And if I said the same about you? guillaumeb Feb 2018 #176

You'd be right. I don't believe in your or any other religion either. AtheistCrusader Feb 2018 #185

Silence? Never! Gawd is on his side, after all. Mariana Feb 2018 #162

It would be a 3 page pamphlet for all you can get him to clearly define/adopt/claim. AtheistCrusader Feb 2018 #186

And I'm asking you, would you do this to ANY other group of people? trotsky Feb 2018 #19

Still persisting with the misframing? guillaumeb Feb 2018 #42

Still refusing to answer a simple question? trotsky Feb 2018 #46

It is a question based on your misframing. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #113

THEN FUCKING REFRAME IT. trotsky Feb 2018 #182

you get a death threat in the mail, it ain't something to ignore rurallib Feb 2018 #108

Which was, in fact, a part of my response. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #110

An assertion with zero evidence. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #160

A fact with a metric shit-ton of evidence. trotsky Feb 2018 #183

You might consider another round of self deletion. Voltaire2 Feb 2018 #93

Is this in the same vein as you other comments? guillaumeb Feb 2018 #109

How do you feel about the very, very small minority edhopper Feb 2018 #99

You apparently misread, or missed entirely. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #111

Really? edhopper Feb 2018 #135

Right here, in this same thread where we are commenting: guillaumeb Feb 2018 #138

Your first post was mocking edhopper Feb 2018 #139

Wrong. It was a response to an hyperbolic suggestion. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #142

Keep doubling down edhopper Feb 2018 #147

As I said. Sorry to see you responding in this way. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #149

we have spirited dialog edhopper Feb 2018 #156

Yes, we do. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #157

That's a falsehood. trotsky Feb 2018 #184

Voltaire has suggested it twice. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #194

They're even more frequent in online comment sections. MineralMan Feb 2018 #2

And tRump is encouraging all of the hatred he can, it's his Zest in life. Watching and promoting RKP5637 Feb 2018 #4

325 million Americans. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #7

It is really not cool to minimize death threats. trotsky Feb 2018 #11

Perspective coupled with awareness. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #14

It's really NEVER cool to minimize death threats. trotsky Feb 2018 #21

Another attempt at framing? guillaumeb Feb 2018 #26

IT IS NEVER COOL TO MINIMIZE DEATH THREATS. trotsky Feb 2018 #29

Interesting and predictable response. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #35

Of course it's predictable. trotsky Feb 2018 #41

Your answer was predictable. But, here it is again: guillaumeb Feb 2018 #44

"Persistence is not always a virtue." n/t trotsky Feb 2018 #49

Fine, I'll bite, since the others are getting nowhere marylandblue Feb 2018 #122

This is an outlier. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #125

I don't see where he originally posted that marylandblue Feb 2018 #134

My concern in this very narrow venue is what I see as the needlessly guillaumeb Feb 2018 #137

On this particular topic you don't seem very empathetic marylandblue Feb 2018 #143

A good idea. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #144

It's irrelevant to this particular thread, which should not have any disagreement in it marylandblue Feb 2018 #146

I am a Christian pacifist. I have previously made that known. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #148

That's not a very comforting answer marylandblue Feb 2018 #150

Your opinion. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #151

It is their opinion marylandblue Feb 2018 #153

It is an accusation, and an assertion with no evidence provided. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #155

I haven't seen those threads, so I have no opinion on them marylandblue Feb 2018 #158

But I and others have seen them. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #159

What is it edhopper Feb 2018 #164

I saw evidence of tactics and possible agenda. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #166

People with opinions edhopper Feb 2018 #170

I see some harsh rhetoric and perhaps some ad hominen marylandblue Feb 2018 #173

Agreed. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #174

Ok fine then, getting back to this thread marylandblue Feb 2018 #177

I suggested reporting the threats. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #191

Well I suppose Trump does not need to unequivically condemn white supremacists marylandblue Feb 2018 #196

For the umpteen hundredth time: trotsky Feb 2018 #188

That is why I do not participate in DU Mail MineralMan Feb 2018 #190

I stopped responding to some posters. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #195

I just find it simpler not to use DU Mail. MineralMan Feb 2018 #204

It seems Gil has a personal vendetta against atheist posters here. Mariana Feb 2018 #161

Nice attempt at reframing. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #167

Why do your posts read like they start off as Mad Libs? Act_of_Reparation Feb 2018 #187

Try reading the fantasy framing of #161. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #206

It's quite obvious you don't much care for atheists. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2018 #208

I do not care for simplistic framing, guillaumeb Feb 2018 #209

I don't care. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2018 #210

Talk about reframing! marylandblue Feb 2018 #199

It's performance art. Mariana Feb 2018 #202

He's brilliant at it! trotsky Feb 2018 #205

Theres over 900 hate groups in the US. fleabiscuit Feb 2018 #201

Most Americans are theists. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #207

Yes, Christians. fleabiscuit Feb 2018 #211

Are they prorportional? Act_of_Reparation Feb 2018 #212

It only takes one, dude. MineralMan Feb 2018 #17

Perspective is the correct word, and you are avoiding it. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #23

So what, Guillaume? MineralMan Feb 2018 #31

And guillaumeb Feb 2018 #37

You keep posting the same words, over and over again. MineralMan Feb 2018 #50

When I keep reading the same misframing from more than one poster, guillaumeb Feb 2018 #53

Don't ask me questions about what anyone else has posted, please. MineralMan Feb 2018 #54

This is not perspective, it is lack of empathy marylandblue Feb 2018 #123

Are you speaking of an individual who takes such action? guillaumeb Feb 2018 #126

Even just threats are a way of silencing people, marylandblue Feb 2018 #128

Which was why I suggested reporting any threats to the police. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #129

Why are you pointing out the obvious again? marylandblue Feb 2018 #130

If it were truly obvious, many more incident of domestic/relationship abuse guillaumeb Feb 2018 #131

You are pointing out that few Christians make these threats marylandblue Feb 2018 #132

I suspect most atheists who receive death threats Mariana Feb 2018 #133

But, but, Christians are being persecuted in the US. sinkingfeeling Feb 2018 #9

Most people have forgotten the kidnapping and murder of Madelyn Murray O'Hair MineralMan Feb 2018 #6

I've been around a while. trotsky Feb 2018 #10

Yes. I've had my share of such things, too. MineralMan Feb 2018 #13

I bet you didn't expect this thread to show exactly why these kinds of death threats are so scary. trotsky Feb 2018 #39

Well, I guess I expected a discussion, rather than a spamfest. MineralMan Feb 2018 #52

This is actually a pretty instructive moment. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2018 #56

Fucking right you are. n/t trotsky Feb 2018 #58

Yes, it is. Rather than condemn those who would issue death threats, MineralMan Feb 2018 #61

"I hope nobody sees it as a valid argument." trotsky Feb 2018 #65

I'll tell you one thing Pope George Ringo II Feb 2018 #98

Word. Iggo Feb 2018 #169

In this case I can't ignore the hatred. trotsky Feb 2018 #180

No Christians have leapt to his defense Mariana Feb 2018 #103

What passes for acceptable Christian behavior these days, right here on DU. trotsky Feb 2018 #181

I've noticed that no other Christians are telling him he's wrong. Mariana Feb 2018 #100

Their failure to self-police is the stuff of legend. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2018 #124

Yer rite. Especially the ones in Boston. Mariana Feb 2018 #127

The Boston Atheists revoked the membership of a Trump supporter. Mariana Feb 2018 #64

Ha! Nice reminder. trotsky Feb 2018 #66

Interesting that you minimize intolerance when it is a group of atheists. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #70

Still pushing that line? Lordquinton Feb 2018 #116

Still agreeing with the tactic? guillaumeb Feb 2018 #118

Clearly I disagree with your tactic Lordquinton Feb 2018 #119

More harmony. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #120

We know you are denying your blatant tactics Lordquinton Feb 2018 #171

A reversal of reality, but if this is the best that you can do, I understand. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #175

Honestly if banning someone from an internet group is the worst you can come up with Lordquinton Feb 2018 #178

Gil has explained that his posts in this group Mariana Feb 2018 #179

That's an interesting link Lordquinton Feb 2018 #189

Harmony. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #193

You dropped your mask Lordquinton Feb 2018 #200

What a bizarre reading of what I actually said. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #192

Bravo! Mariana Feb 2018 #197

5 sets of clapping hands. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #198

You put on a terrific show, Gil. Mariana Feb 2018 #203

Children have received death threats from Christians. Mariana Feb 2018 #68

Yup. It's more common than many people think, and MineralMan Feb 2018 #69

You know as a former altar boy SonofDonald Feb 2018 #83

Sorry. I'm not quite sure what you mean. MineralMan Feb 2018 #84

It is necessary to support the meme. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #88

You spent years in the Catholic church and never once heard that faith was necessary for salvation? Act_of_Reparation Feb 2018 #91

Dod you read the comment? guillaumeb Feb 2018 #92

That was my reply to the letter SonofDonald Feb 2018 #94

It was self-explanatory. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #107

Not directed at you guillaumeb. n/t SonofDonald Feb 2018 #95

It's fascinating you always leap to that "defense". Act_of_Reparation Feb 2018 #96

It's wonderful that you weren't taught that attitude. Mariana Feb 2018 #97

First of all, that is a felony gopiscrap Feb 2018 #102

Some Christians think the way to convert others to Christianity Mariana Feb 2018 #104

yes but dear God, let's hope we are beyond the Middle Ages gopiscrap Feb 2018 #106

We are. They aren't Iggo Feb 2018 #168

Apparently, some Christians behave differently. MineralMan Feb 2018 #105

well this has been eye opening and most alarming rurallib Feb 2018 #114

You're welcome. The thread went off the rails MineralMan Feb 2018 #115

But instructive. Permanut Feb 2018 #121

Indeed. Pope George Ringo II Feb 2018 #136

On another thread, someone posted about Mariana Feb 2018 #140

I wish I could say I was surprised. Pope George Ringo II Feb 2018 #141

Of course, none of the other Christians Mariana Feb 2018 #145

I can't say I blame them Pope George Ringo II Feb 2018 #152

I hope they can track this sick person down and stop this Ferrets are Cool Feb 2018 #154

I hope the police who were assigned to investigate it Mariana Feb 2018 #163

My hopes also. nm Ferrets are Cool Feb 2018 #165