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123. But what constitutes "fairness" often varies.

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"Calling on ALL people of faith and moral conscience" [View all] yallerdawg Apr 2018 OP

So people without faith should stay home. Voltaire2 Apr 2018 #1

Try following the "11th Commandment." yallerdawg Apr 2018 #2

There is no 11th Commandment for this group. MineralMan Apr 2018 #22

I don't know that one. Was it "Thou shalt not grab p**ssies?" dameatball Apr 2018 #27

NOT THE 11TH COMMANDMENT!!!!!!!!! guillaumeb Apr 2018 #73

And you read that where? guillaumeb Apr 2018 #72

The title. Voltaire2 Apr 2018 #91

It could just as easily be read as an either/or call. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #97

Oh so Barber was calling for people of faith Voltaire2 Apr 2018 #101

Nice try. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #104

You do not appear to understand your own argument. Voltaire2 Apr 2018 #106

You are demonstrating something, guillaumeb Apr 2018 #107

Provide an argument in defense of your claim Voltaire2 Apr 2018 #108

Interesting reply. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #109

People of faith is fairly inclusive. yallerdawg Apr 2018 #113

It certainly sounded inclusive to me, guillaumeb Apr 2018 #114

You arent even trying to make a coherent argument. Voltaire2 Apr 2018 #115

You and I disagree. yallerdawg Apr 2018 #116

So, no defense of your claim upthread? Voltaire2 Apr 2018 #120

If I were, I would. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #125

Offs. Voltaire2 Apr 2018 #128

Keep reaching. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #130

Boole had a sad. Voltaire2 Apr 2018 #134

A very demanding precept. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #135

This is ridiculous, isn't it? yallerdawg Apr 2018 #136

Yes, some apparently do. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #137

In case youve forgotten what your argument was. Voltaire2 Apr 2018 #138

Searching for something, anything, to buttress an argument. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #139

It was your argument. Voltaire2 Apr 2018 #140

Your attempt to find an issue was noted. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #141

If it's either/or Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #143

Good luck getting an actual defense of Voltaire2 Apr 2018 #146

"prophets"? Fix The Stupid Apr 2018 #3

Rev. Barber, founder of the Moral Monday movement... yallerdawg Apr 2018 #4

... Fix The Stupid Apr 2018 #5

Yes, people who disagree with you get to post here, too. Mariana Apr 2018 #6

I know you have no faith. yallerdawg Apr 2018 #7

Is calling someone a prophet exclusionary? marylandblue Apr 2018 #8

The title of the op is explicitly and intentionally Voltaire2 Apr 2018 #9

I don't think the OP intended it that way marylandblue Apr 2018 #10

The title of the rally. yallerdawg Apr 2018 #11

You do know that the wording, as is, reads as exclusionary very easily. Probably most correctly. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #12

Are you kidding me? yallerdawg Apr 2018 #13

So you don't want to discuss the possible misinterpretation? Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #14

So if it said "ALL black people and white people"... yallerdawg Apr 2018 #16

It would be exclusionary. nt. Mariana Apr 2018 #21

"And" is exclusionary. yallerdawg Apr 2018 #26

Because it just mentions black and white people. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #37

An example of how that little word "and" does not exclude either. yallerdawg Apr 2018 #41

You know you're supporting my point, right? Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #32

No, I already won the argument. yallerdawg Apr 2018 #42

Black and white people: Mariana Apr 2018 #46

The moral of the story is... yallerdawg Apr 2018 #50

Sure - as long as everyone is black and white. Mariana Apr 2018 #55

OMG. yallerdawg Apr 2018 #56

Thank you, I shall. Mariana Apr 2018 #71

Really weak. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #77

And by saying people, they are clearly discriminating against guillaumeb Apr 2018 #81

It is the actual meaning of and. Voltaire2 Apr 2018 #15

Double down on the deliberate distraction. yallerdawg Apr 2018 #17

But what if it ISN'T a uniting message? Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #33

I gave the opposite argument. yallerdawg Apr 2018 #36

We need a dam to contain the nonsense. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #76

Very weak argument. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #75

"...faith and moral conscience." I have no faith, so I'm excluded. Mariana Apr 2018 #24

"Can I have a taco and burrito?" yallerdawg Apr 2018 #29

Can I have tacos with beef and beans? Mariana Apr 2018 #38

You are supporting the other side. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #39

Keep doubling down! yallerdawg Apr 2018 #43

It is stunning to discover that people Voltaire2 Apr 2018 #69

How inclusive is the word "ALL"? yallerdawg Apr 2018 #70

Well, according to your argument Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #83

Y'all seem to be 'beatin' around the bush' a bit. yallerdawg Apr 2018 #84

I'm using your analysis of the sentence Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #88

Exclusionary language? guillaumeb Apr 2018 #74

Don't be lazy, Gil. Mariana Apr 2018 #94

I would say that the word lazy describes much of the "analysis" I have read here. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #99

So actually discuss the analysis and not just "that's stupid." Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #144

I don't use the word "moral." I prefer MineralMan Apr 2018 #18

Nothing. yallerdawg Apr 2018 #19

As I wrote in the post you replied to, I was active in civil rights work MineralMan Apr 2018 #20

Feh back at you. yallerdawg Apr 2018 #23

No, it is not about me. MineralMan Apr 2018 #25

Refer to the comment section of this OP. yallerdawg Apr 2018 #28

None of your posts have been hidden. Mariana Apr 2018 #31

It gets tried. yallerdawg Apr 2018 #34

You should report such threats to the administrators. Mariana Apr 2018 #40

So your saying... yallerdawg Apr 2018 #45

Which rules? nt. Mariana Apr 2018 #52

No personal attacks or flaming yallerdawg Apr 2018 #54

LOL, you break those rules all the time. Mariana Apr 2018 #57

Merely an observation. yallerdawg Apr 2018 #58

The comment section related to this OP Mariana Apr 2018 #62

How would you know? guillaumeb Apr 2018 #80

There is no "comment section" MineralMan Apr 2018 #44

You are commenting. yallerdawg Apr 2018 #48

When did I post K & R? MineralMan Apr 2018 #61

I'm just pointing out... yallerdawg Apr 2018 #65

OK. Here's a question for you. MineralMan Apr 2018 #68

You don't think it's positive Mariana Apr 2018 #30

MM speaks for himself - elsewhere. yallerdawg Apr 2018 #35

No. I speak for myself here. MineralMan Apr 2018 #47

And your comments... yallerdawg Apr 2018 #49

My "replies" to an open discussion. MineralMan Apr 2018 #51

Comment: yallerdawg Apr 2018 #53

Oh, for goodness' sake! MineralMan Apr 2018 #59

Did you deem MLK's organization, the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, Tanuki Apr 2018 #64

Great article! yallerdawg Apr 2018 #78

Rev. William Barber II ! spicysista Apr 2018 #60

It has been a tumultuous, soul-searching couple of years! yallerdawg Apr 2018 #63

It's an exciting time, right!?! spicysista Apr 2018 #66

"Stronger together!" yallerdawg Apr 2018 #67

All people? guillaumeb Apr 2018 #79

I thought this would be a quietly respectful, even encouraging OP. yallerdawg Apr 2018 #82

marylandblue posted an excellent one tonight. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #85

Thanks, but I think it is all in the presentation marylandblue Apr 2018 #95

True. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #100

There is no why. It just is. marylandblue Apr 2018 #103

This thread is a demonstration of the blindness Voltaire2 Apr 2018 #92

And of the mental gymnastics the religious will engage in Mariana Apr 2018 #96

It seems to me to demonstrate the focus of those who search for a reason to be guillaumeb Apr 2018 #98

That is because you are blind to Voltaire2 Apr 2018 #102

Is that the new song? guillaumeb Apr 2018 #105

I do not have faith or a "Moral Consciense" uriel1972 Apr 2018 #86

It's an interfaith group! yallerdawg Apr 2018 #87

So why didn't they just put a period after ALL? Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #89

Why aren't they just an irreligious secular group? yallerdawg Apr 2018 #90

Glad youve come around to agreeing Voltaire2 Apr 2018 #93

The 11th Commandment, even being left off of the tablets, guillaumeb Apr 2018 #112

Are you familiar with the expression "grasping at straws"? guillaumeb Apr 2018 #111

If you care to comment on the grammar of the sentence in the OP Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #142

You do not have a consciousness about morality? guillaumeb Apr 2018 #110

As far as I'm concerned morality does not exist... uriel1972 Apr 2018 #117

So there is no concept of morality? guillaumeb Apr 2018 #118

There is a "Concept" of morality... uriel1972 Apr 2018 #119

Not sure I agree with that. Voltaire2 Apr 2018 #121

But what constitutes "fairness" often varies. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #123

Not in lab experiments. Voltaire2 Apr 2018 #124

Self preservation and species preservation are universal. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #126

You arent paying attention. Voltaire2 Apr 2018 #127

Species preservation is non existent, except for humans and self preservation is not universal marylandblue Apr 2018 #129

Herd behavior is an example of non-human species preservation. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #131

No it's not. marylandblue Apr 2018 #132

I understand your apparent need to defend your assertion, however: guillaumeb Apr 2018 #133

You are confusing cooperative behavior with a nonexistent thing called "species preservation" marylandblue Apr 2018 #147

OK guillaumeb Apr 2018 #148

We don't "Choose"... uriel1972 Apr 2018 #145

And societal preference? guillaumeb Apr 2018 #122