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Silver Gaia

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172. Yes, this church was definitely a cult!

Thu Apr 19, 2018, 11:44 PM

Apr 2018

The national association of Pentecostal churches kicked them out for being too extreme. This was back in the late 40s to early 50s, I think. I'm sure the church still exists, though. To their credit, once my parents realized how unhealthy this was for their children, they stopped letting us go there.

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What does a religious person call somebody who believes something different? [View all] DetlefK Apr 2018 OP

This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer Apr 2018 #1

I read about and hear stories about religious people slandering atheists thbobby Apr 2018 #2

I am an atheist and my last job before retiring was at a Salvation Army homeless shelter. elocs Apr 2018 #5

Religious intolerance continues to cause more strife than anything else democratisphere Apr 2018 #3

I suspect that economics, territorial issues and such cause more strife ollie10 Apr 2018 #46

The wars and problems in the Middle East are largely about Religious democratisphere Apr 2018 #54

Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot were not ....er....exactly religious folks ollie10 Apr 2018 #56

You need to educate yourself on this subject. democratisphere Apr 2018 #58

Everyone needs education ollie10 Apr 2018 #63

I am talking about the intolerance of one religion over another and vice versa. democratisphere Apr 2018 #64

I am talking about intolerance period ollie10 Apr 2018 #67

Not all, but much of it is. democratisphere Apr 2018 #70

Still, the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of religious people ollie10 Apr 2018 #72

This isn't about church, going or not going. It's about religions that have no tolerance democratisphere Apr 2018 #73

The OP created a straw man ollie10 Apr 2018 #74

Correct. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #81

ROFLMAO! MineralMan Apr 2018 #109

Always good to engage in exercise. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #121

Hay sweet stuff! sprinkleeninow Apr 2018 #176

Your assertion is strawman Major Nikon Apr 2018 #138

That's your interpretation ollie10 Apr 2018 #145

As was yours Major Nikon Apr 2018 #151

This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer Apr 2018 #102

Yup ollie10 Apr 2018 #103

More like an excuse zipplewrath Apr 2018 #66

It is an excuse, of course. Mariana Apr 2018 #106

It's not an excuse if people actually believe it. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2018 #202

Neighbor, friend vlyons Apr 2018 #4

I dunno.....Methodists call Lutherans Christians. ollie10 Apr 2018 #6

(Methodists and Lutherans ARE both Christians... just different branches.) Silver Gaia Apr 2018 #8

The essential point is there are LOTS of different views in Christianity and other religions ollie10 Apr 2018 #9

I agree with that. Silver Gaia Apr 2018 #11

No problem! ollie10 Apr 2018 #13

Yep... Docreed2003 Apr 2018 #136

I had a similar experience, Silver Gaia Apr 2018 #170

At some point a church becomes more of a cult Major Nikon Apr 2018 #171

Yes, this church was definitely a cult! Silver Gaia Apr 2018 #172

Hard to imagine being more extreme than snake handling Major Nikon Apr 2018 #173

Thank goodness they didn't do that! Silver Gaia Apr 2018 #175

Have you heard of the word exclusivism? Major Nikon Apr 2018 #127

Ecumenism is pretty common ollie10 Apr 2018 #150

Not nearly as common as exclusivism Major Nikon Apr 2018 #155

I get where you are going with this, Silver Gaia Apr 2018 #7

You don't sound like anyone who's ever presented at a scientific conference. pnwmom Apr 2018 #10

Oh, I have presented at scientific conferences. DetlefK Apr 2018 #15

But it is over-generalizing (and unscientific for that matter) to ignore the FACT ollie10 Apr 2018 #22

First of all, respecting people has nothing whatsoever to do with science. DetlefK Apr 2018 #25

yeah right buddy...... ollie10 Apr 2018 #28

Did I say something wrong? DetlefK Apr 2018 #29

you didn't say anything at all....just a lot of gobbledegook ollie10 Apr 2018 #30

You remind me of someone I encountered on another forum. DetlefK Apr 2018 #69

Well, rather than refute, you just call someone a troll ollie10 Apr 2018 #71

On target. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #85

yeah right buddy... you didn't say anything at all, DetlefK Apr 2018 #177

I don't think Ollie has ever actually discussed religion in this group. Mariana Apr 2018 #141

97% of scientists believe in global warming..... ollie10 Apr 2018 #110

Depends on the scientists and the circumstances. thucythucy Apr 2018 #112

They don't have one term. They have many. For example, they are just as likely pnwmom Apr 2018 #167

Like that time Dawkins burned Gould at the stake over Punctuated Equilibrum? Act_of_Reparation Apr 2018 #182

Ah yes, the brutal NOMA wars. trotsky Apr 2018 #184

Just this year, thousands of Many Worlds-ists were displaced from their native lands... Act_of_Reparation Apr 2018 #186

No worries. Easy to get them confused. trotsky Apr 2018 #187

Huh, it has been several decades since I was in the Science World, GulfCoast66 Apr 2018 #12

Im an Atheist... SkyDaddy7 Apr 2018 #14

Is this just meant to bash religious people? oberliner Apr 2018 #16

Exactly... mark67 Apr 2018 #18

Agreed. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #82

Sure, tolerance demands we must tolerate intolerance Major Nikon Apr 2018 #128

I am new to Democratic Underground SoFlaDem Apr 2018 #17

Hopefully -it will be soon... Fix The Stupid Apr 2018 #19

But what about SoFlaDem Apr 2018 #24

Who is "shunning" those people? trotsky Apr 2018 #34

I guess you missed that! ollie10 Apr 2018 #36

I missed it also Major Nikon Apr 2018 #130

You missed it ollie10 Apr 2018 #148

Id just as soon assume you cant or wont support the assertion Major Nikon Apr 2018 #157

And quietly vote for hatred bigotry war Voltaire2 Apr 2018 #78

heh Heddi Apr 2018 #79

Welcome to DU! The 'lay of the land' here can be hilly- at times. But the bumpy FailureToCommunicate Apr 2018 #20

It's not a progressive value ollie10 Apr 2018 #21

It is progressive to speak truth to power. DetlefK Apr 2018 #23

I haven't been in a church or synagogue or church SoFlaDem Apr 2018 #26

What atheist group is trying to "force" views on anyone here? trotsky Apr 2018 #33

I didn't say that SoFlaDem Apr 2018 #38

OK, I will continue to ask for examples. trotsky Apr 2018 #40

The OP SoFlaDem Apr 2018 #42

Followed by "Believers have different words for such people" trotsky Apr 2018 #43

you're being factitious SoFlaDem Apr 2018 #48

Some indeed do. trotsky Apr 2018 #50

Wait... SoFlaDem Apr 2018 #53

First off, the entire post is clearly intended to be humorous. trotsky Apr 2018 #59

"Believers" without a qualifier would be all inclusive. SoFlaDem Apr 2018 #60

Well then I suggest you berate and lecture the OP for their horrible abuse of all believers. trotsky Apr 2018 #62

Calling my post "berating" SoFlaDem Apr 2018 #68

Yes, it is, isn't it? trotsky Apr 2018 #95

And how about this bit of dialogue? guillaumeb Apr 2018 #86

Sure does remind me of someone, gil. trotsky Apr 2018 #94

And do you see that a excusing this instance? guillaumeb Apr 2018 #118

Uh, it's actually you engaging in whataboutism again, gil. trotsky Apr 2018 #183

Another accusation? guillaumeb Apr 2018 #194

Nope, just observation. trotsky Apr 2018 #199

Oh BTW, could you please visit the following thread as well? trotsky Apr 2018 #65

Humerous? What's the punch line? ollie10 Apr 2018 #113

No....it was not made clear. ollie10 Apr 2018 #55

Tolerance doesnt require me to agree or STFU Major Nikon Apr 2018 #131

So if someone were to say something SoFlaDem Apr 2018 #135

If atheists had a dictionary full of disparaging names for believers Major Nikon Apr 2018 #137

Amd which post was that? guillaumeb Apr 2018 #83

This forum edhopper Apr 2018 #31

Sure, I guess I'm just surprised SoFlaDem Apr 2018 #35

Why? edhopper Apr 2018 #37

I was taught to avoid broad generalizations SoFlaDem Apr 2018 #44

Still waiting for specific examples. trotsky Apr 2018 #47

Speaking of smears: guillaumeb Apr 2018 #87

Were you offended by DetlefK's remarks? trotsky Apr 2018 #96

I am an atheist I don't accept the existence of any gods, edhopper Apr 2018 #49

I'm totally cool with that because I don't believe any different SoFlaDem Apr 2018 #51

One thing to know about this forum edhopper Apr 2018 #57

But THIS is not discussion: guillaumeb Apr 2018 #90

you really want to go that route edhopper Apr 2018 #91

It is one of many. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #92

Yes one of many edhopper Apr 2018 #93

Guillaume, Mon cher! sprinkleeninow Apr 2018 #162

Ca y est! guillaumeb Apr 2018 #191

😉 sprinkleeninow Apr 2018 #203

Well said Major Nikon Apr 2018 #174

Remember what Gil is doing here in the Religion Group. Mariana Apr 2018 #105

Can you provide specific examples of this "intolerance"? trotsky Apr 2018 #32

I'm always so interested Heddi Apr 2018 #80

Is this discussion of religion, or is it name calling? guillaumeb Apr 2018 #88

Hi. I'm heddi. I don't answer for other people's posts Heddi Apr 2018 #100

I am aware of who you are, and how you respond. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #120

But, all atheists are the same, and so are interchangeable. MineralMan Apr 2018 #139

This isn't the first time Gil has done this. Mariana Apr 2018 #142

Ya know it never seems to be any of the rude religionists getting called out, either. trotsky Apr 2018 #117

Indeed. Mariana Apr 2018 #143

Welcome to DU! Mariana Apr 2018 #39

Thanks but I'm not religious SoFlaDem Apr 2018 #45

Well, you aren't alone. Mariana Apr 2018 #52

Quite the opposite. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #89

Good reason not to ignore unnaceptable behavior Major Nikon Apr 2018 #161

Welcome to DU. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #76

I guess since I believe SoFlaDem Apr 2018 #98

yes, religion CAN BE an interesting topic ollie10 Apr 2018 #107

Been my experience too HopeAgain Apr 2018 #116

Your opinions are welcome here. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #119

"I am new to Democratic Underground so I am still getting the lay of the land." Act_of_Reparation Apr 2018 #97

What is that supposed to mean? SoFlaDem Apr 2018 #99

well Heddi Apr 2018 #101

How welcoming. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #123

uh, so when was I critical of religion? Heddi Apr 2018 #125

Wonderfully illustrative of your true feelings on dialogue. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #126

Post removed Post removed Apr 2018 #129

The 11th commandment in use Lordquinton Apr 2018 #180

It is an accurate observation. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #192

They are one and the same in your hands Lordquinton Apr 2018 #195

I am open to dialogue, guillaumeb Apr 2018 #196

There are several open questions to you Lordquinton Apr 2018 #197

Dialogue implies a willingness to lsiten. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #198

So you admit you don't answer questions? Lordquinton Apr 2018 #205

An answer much in harmony with the few and their agenda. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #207

Harmony.. 11th commandment Lordquinton Apr 2018 #208

I like your dearly departed mother! Mariana Apr 2018 #146

If you point out anything bad about religion you are intolerant Major Nikon Apr 2018 #164

I was wondering when he would show up. Like moths to a flame ollie10 Apr 2018 #108

All part of following the requirements of the 11th Commandment. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #124

Calling another poster a liar? guillaumeb Apr 2018 #122

What other poster? Act_of_Reparation Apr 2018 #181

#97 guillaumeb Apr 2018 #193

I can't see #97 Act_of_Reparation Apr 2018 #200

I have an idea. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #204

Sometimes, when a guy gets a new toupe, it takes me a minute to recognize him. Iggo Apr 2018 #206

Welcome to DU wryter2000 Apr 2018 #111

Thank you for the affirmation HopeAgain Apr 2018 #114

It's not you wryter2000 Apr 2018 #147

Welcome, this is a unique forum HopeAgain Apr 2018 #115

Sadly, it seems that most of the people who come to this group do so in order pnwmom Apr 2018 #168

They call them - Going to Hell TBA Apr 2018 #27

You forgot the handbasket. sprinkleeninow Apr 2018 #163

What does a religious person call somebody who believes something different? ollie10 Apr 2018 #41

Im not convinced you speak for most religious people Major Nikon Apr 2018 #133

I don't speak for anyone ollie10 Apr 2018 #144

Most religious people do the same Major Nikon Apr 2018 #149

You are extremely rude ollie10 Apr 2018 #152

You contradicted yourself which I pointed out matter of factly Major Nikon Apr 2018 #153

Then let's end this. I see no point to continue ollie10 Apr 2018 #156

Agreed Major Nikon Apr 2018 #160

That sounds about right. yallerdawg Apr 2018 #134

Fred or Susan? MineralMan Apr 2018 #61

Far too simplistic. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #75

I call them TEB Apr 2018 #77

Why the name calling? guillaumeb Apr 2018 #84

I call many of them sarisataka Apr 2018 #104

Exactly. yallerdawg Apr 2018 #132

Not exactly Major Nikon Apr 2018 #140

I would call you Major Nikon. yallerdawg Apr 2018 #158

No Major Nikon Apr 2018 #159

What religion? Ferrets are Cool Apr 2018 #154

I've been called: sprinkleeninow Apr 2018 #165

Heterodox! k8conant Apr 2018 #166

What do scientists call another scientist who thinks a different theory is correct? pnwmom Apr 2018 #169

Did scientists invent those words? DetlefK Apr 2018 #178

And my point is that scientists can be just as vehemently certain of themselves, pnwmom Apr 2018 #179

And there are often wars and fighting edhopper Apr 2018 #185

Once we determined DNA carried the genetic information of cells... Act_of_Reparation Apr 2018 #189

And Einstein's refusal to accept Quantum Mechanics edhopper Apr 2018 #190

When I was in school... Act_of_Reparation Apr 2018 #201

+15,000 Angry Dragon Apr 2018 #188