Religion

Bretton Garcia

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71. It's not bias to be suspicious of religion

Thu May 17, 2018, 02:35 AM

May 2018

Religions like Christianity have long made many absurd and obviously false promises.

John 14.13 for example, promises you all the miracles you ask for. But even a simple experiment reveals that promise to be false: ask God to make a flying elephant appear in front of you now, and observe the result.

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How Anti-Religious Bias Prevented Scientists from Accepting the Big Bang [View all] guillaumeb May 2018 OP

Illuminating article. yallerdawg May 2018 #1

evidence and religion are two words that never will meet. nt msongs May 2018 #2

I suggest reading the article. guillaumeb May 2018 #4

Are you familiar with ... yallerdawg May 2018 #6

Agreed. guillaumeb May 2018 #3

If today's standards of thought... yallerdawg May 2018 #5

One poster actually accused Francis of Asissi of not having the right attitude. guillaumeb May 2018 #8

When Lemaitre proposed his theory, there was no evidence to support it marylandblue May 2018 #7

The article concerns possible bias directed toward Lemaitre guillaumeb May 2018 #9

Possible but nobody said scientists are perfect marylandblue May 2018 #10

Religion does not depend on evidence. guillaumeb May 2018 #11

Faith is a bad guide to reality marylandblue May 2018 #12

Human perception can also be a bad guide to reality. guillaumeb May 2018 #13

That belief would be based on faith marylandblue May 2018 #16

Gosh. If only we had some way to test the validity of our perceptions. Act_of_Reparation May 2018 #41

Good thing science is a lot more than just human perception then, huh? trotsky May 2018 #44

Faith imparts meaning and purpose to reality. yallerdawg May 2018 #14

Not relevant to this topic marylandblue May 2018 #15

You said "Faith is a bad guide to reality." yallerdawg May 2018 #17

The topic is physical reality as described by science marylandblue May 2018 #20

Try reading Sartre edhopper May 2018 #18

You're peddling existentialism? yallerdawg May 2018 #19

That would be how to find meaning without religion marylandblue May 2018 #21

And this "meaning" would involve no faith in anything. yallerdawg May 2018 #22

You seemmto have no understanding edhopper May 2018 #23

"Man is the measure of all things." yallerdawg May 2018 #24

Man is in fact the measure of all things marylandblue May 2018 #27

We all choose to give our lives some kind of meaning and purpose. yallerdawg May 2018 #29

Are we talking about existentialism or philosophers in general marylandblue May 2018 #32

Sartre certainly didn't believe that faith is required for meaning marylandblue May 2018 #25

If we determine the world is meaningless and completely randomly absurd... yallerdawg May 2018 #26

No, not "whatever" marylandblue May 2018 #28

Suicide would require an act and commitment. yallerdawg May 2018 #31

The choice is not meaningless, the choice is the meaning marylandblue May 2018 #34

I know many people who will reply "Whatever"... yallerdawg May 2018 #36

They are replying whatever to the examination, not to the question of suicide. marylandblue May 2018 #38

Also we don't make the leap from "there is no God" marylandblue May 2018 #30

A "leap of faith" requires an open-mind. yallerdawg May 2018 #35

I've never made a determination that religious belief is not a viable authentic choice marylandblue May 2018 #37

I understand we choose to give meaning and purpose to our lives. yallerdawg May 2018 #39

ok marylandblue May 2018 #40

But you don't understand that we can do this edhopper May 2018 #46

You can. yallerdawg May 2018 #48

Humans created religion to systematize and legalize the social order they MineralMan May 2018 #49

Those who view science as a religion would undoubtedly be confused on secular humanism Major Nikon May 2018 #50

Yes take it from religion edhopper May 2018 #52

Sartre said that hell is other people. guillaumeb May 2018 #64

I think we all feel edhopper May 2018 #70

The article ignores real concerns directed towards the theory Lordquinton May 2018 #54

I disagree. guillaumeb May 2018 #65

What a truly compelling argument Lordquinton May 2018 #66

As was your own: guillaumeb May 2018 #67

You could have just written "#3" for yours Lordquinton May 2018 #68

Why take the time to answer a detailed response when a canned one will do? Major Nikon May 2018 #69

This always happens Lordquinton May 2018 #76

Aha! The Georges Lemaitre ploy. longship May 2018 #33

It is a clear example of why science works. Voltaire2 May 2018 #42

I thought science IS a religion? Major Nikon May 2018 #47

Quiet, you. trotsky May 2018 #55

At least being stalked isn't as bad as being BBQed Major Nikon May 2018 #56

Oh no! Did those evil atheist scientists burn him at the stake for heresy? n/t trotsky May 2018 #43

No. That's just silly. MineralMan May 2018 #45

How anti-scientific bias prevented the church from accepting the heliocentric model. DetlefK May 2018 #51

Galilei had to renounce his work to keep from getting BBQed Major Nikon May 2018 #53

Careful, now. Act_of_Reparation May 2018 #57

The trial records tell a different tale Major Nikon May 2018 #58

He certainly was a troublesome fellow, it seems. MineralMan May 2018 #59

Yes. Nowdays, instead of burning us literally Mariana May 2018 #60

Well, it's been a long time since I had a Christian say he'd be happy MineralMan May 2018 #61

Yes they have gone from "Burn in hell sucker!" to marylandblue May 2018 #62

Hubris always gets you in the end Major Nikon May 2018 #63

Giordano Bruno is a bad example, as he was an actual religious heretic. DetlefK May 2018 #72

It is a fine example of how authoritarian religious Voltaire2 May 2018 #74

As was Galilei, who was convicted of heresy by the Inquisition Major Nikon May 2018 #75

It's not bias to be suspicious of religion Bretton Garcia May 2018 #71

Mescaline and psilocybin have a far greater success rate Major Nikon May 2018 #77

I have to train-rec this op too. Voltaire2 May 2018 #73

Shitposting is more of a phenomenon than a miracle Major Nikon May 2018 #78